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Author Topic:   Creationism - a clearer picture?
quicksink
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Message 2 of 64 (5936)
03-01-2002 10:07 PM


you're going to be waiting for a loooong time....
creationists usually know creationism is true because some christian site tells them so....
the fact is, most, if not all, of the shreds of creation evidence are actually evolution evidence twisted and molded to suit the bible.
this would be acceptable if both parties had equal evidence, but that is not the case...
creationists find themselves using evolution evidence to prove the bible. they also find themselves trying to disprove the rest of the evidence that supports evolution, the evidence that they can't manipulate.

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quicksink
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Message 52 of 64 (6176)
03-06-2002 4:37 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Theo
03-02-2002 1:35 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Theo:
I find the lack of understanding in these posts of what creationism claims to be appalling. The straw man fallacy is repeated over and over.
I suggest that if one want's to understand the creationist view before critiquing it they read Oliver Wendel Bird's two volume set "The Origin of the Species Revisited." Evolutionist scientists recommend it. In volume one he reviews the scientific data. In volume two he reviews the philosophy of science, definitions of science and legalities. He does not address the issue of the Young Earth however.
If one did their homework they would find that creationism does make testable predictions. I have found no one critical of creationism in these posts that even have a clue as to what they are. Shouldn't one know what one is critiquing before one critiques it?
Evolution made predictions, mutation and natural selection for change from a single cell to man and then when science proved that mutation and natural selection could not have done this, evolution simply changed the theory to punctuated equilibrium to explain the lack of evidence. Yet Punk Eek cannot provide a mechanism. This is blind faith and begging the question. One cannot interpret the evidence in light of one's beliefs. That method will always confirm one's original beliefs. That's what evolution has done. Popper's criteria of falsifiability as part of the definition of science apparently doesn't apply to evolution science. Evolution science is to plastic violating definitions of science. For starters on testable predictions, creationism predicts the first and second laws of thermodynamics which evolution science violates.
We'll go from there

March 4th, 2002
Enlightened Creationist Deals Stunning Blow to Evolutionists
After nearly a hundred years of evolutionist victories, an astute creationist, known only as Theo, has dealt what is being called the "Upset" of the century to the evolutionist camp. "She released her entire arsenal", said the late Stephen Hawking, who was found dead at his home after committing suicide, "She toppled the tower of evolution- my life is over..."
According to eyewitnesses, a band of creationists were seen storming a forum late last night.
"They started hurling unbased claims everywhere", said one evolutionist, fleeing the scene, "It was horrible!"
Creationists applauded the events- "The actions were commendable- I've never seen anyone so skilled at barraging scientists with claims without any credible evidence. She deserves some sort of award."
Theo held a press conference outside of her Salt Lake City home this afternoon. When asked how she felt about the unfounded attacks on evolution, she made a clear response, "A creationist's gotta do what a creationist's gotta do- anyone who challenges our beliefs deserves to face enternal pain and indescribable suffering in the deepest pits of hell- I was just helping out." When asked what she planned for the future, she replied, quote, "I want continue my noble career as an evolutionist basher- because that'll prove that creationism is right."
Reports that several evolutionists, including Elvis Presley and ET, were meeting with Hitler's clone and a demonic satan in antarctic to discuss a neo-nazi plan to destroy god and degrade our society could not be confirmed as of press time.
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although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid, it's true most stupid people are conservative.
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quicksink
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Message 53 of 64 (6177)
03-06-2002 5:01 AM


percy- i hope that post wasn't too harsh, but i'm really sick of the verbal diorrhea flowing from theo's mouth... any ott harshness is regretted.

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quicksink
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Message 55 of 64 (6227)
03-07-2002 3:17 AM


i'm still having that refresh problem

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quicksink
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Message 62 of 64 (6286)
03-08-2002 3:52 AM


theo- sorry about that post- i was in a bad mood and couldn't resist.

  
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