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Author Topic:   The problems of big bang theory. What are they?
IamJoseph
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Message 274 of 389 (631251)
08-31-2011 6:05 AM
Reply to: Message 272 by Dr Adequate
08-31-2011 12:54 AM


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Neither. They reject it because they are Biblical literalists.
They are also all time Nobels literalists.

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Message 296 of 389 (631364)
08-31-2011 7:21 PM
Reply to: Message 294 by Dr Adequate
08-31-2011 3:38 PM


IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL!
You mean it check mates you?
Take a singular item. Place it in a bowl of soup - oops, there is bowl or soup! Damn thing is a singularity with nothing else around. Darn - not even an observer in sight!
Ahem! Not do you see why only a universe maker makes the only scientific sense here - or does not still not make any sense at all?

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IamJoseph
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Message 299 of 389 (631424)
08-31-2011 11:52 PM
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08-31-2011 11:37 PM


Re: No Sense Whatsoever!
A lima bean is inadmissable as a singularity. It has multi components including seeds and electrons.
try again.

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IamJoseph
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Message 300 of 389 (631425)
08-31-2011 11:56 PM
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08-31-2011 5:20 PM


I am starting to see a pattern.. of omissions.
Can be an error when fundy atheists forget to include a fulcrum verse from the Noah story - or suddenly forget what a singulairity is?
Can anyone dismiss that a lie-by-omission is - surprise, surprise - a lie!

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Message 302 of 389 (631437)
09-01-2011 2:36 AM
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09-01-2011 2:31 AM


Re: No Sense Whatsoever!
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Are you under the impression that the letters 'singular' in singularity actually mean a single inanimate object that could do nothing at all unless another force acted upon it?
Yes. And I got it by pondering this statement: 'MAN AND WOMEN CREATED HE THEM'. It applies to everything.
Yes, it takes two to tango. Science depends on this factor.

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IamJoseph
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Message 304 of 389 (631442)
09-01-2011 3:07 AM
Reply to: Message 303 by Butterflytyrant
09-01-2011 2:55 AM


Re: No Sense Whatsoever!
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Can you explain how exactly you gained an undertsanding of singularities form this statement:
'MAN AND WOMEN CREATED HE THEM'.
I cant see any cosmology at all.
A duality is the minimum for any action; the man-woman gender duality is manifest, and it applies in turn to all things in the universe, including inanimate products. If the BBT states a single/singular/singularity 'expanded' - it is clearly incorrect: there was yet nowhere to expand to, nor any reason or cause to make this happen, nor was there energy to cause a bang, nor the law that allows it to go bang. Its a hedy subject and well beyond today's fresh faced scientists. Genesis is dealing with the most hedy subject of all. It is surprising that the BBT anomaly was not rejected on the basis of the equation provided in Genesis! Boggle-boggle!
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It applies to everything.
Man and woman created he them (even when shouted) cannot apply to everything.
You are making no sense again.
Yes, it takes two to tango. Science depends on this factor.
Can I take this as your admission that your whole argument for God rests on the fact that you think that a singularity is a single inanimate object that, in order to do anything, needs another force (your god conveniently) to 'tango'. And you have established this because the word singular is in the word singularity.
Yes you can. There are no alternatives. In fact take this on board also: a singularity or a perfect 'ONE' cannot and does not exist in the universe; this is the meaning of the Hebrew equation, THE LORD IS ONE - a mode of phrasing Monotheism for all generation's understanding. Sublime literary genius, no?.

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IamJoseph
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Message 306 of 389 (631447)
09-01-2011 3:30 AM
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09-01-2011 3:19 AM


Re: No Sense Whatsoever!
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Asexual reproduction.
Two reasons why you are wrong in accepting this w/o good consideration:
1. You will find that there is a splitting factor [mutation] of the seed therein. This is also seen in single cell amebae - the cells split same as with other life forms.
2. Your own example says the single parent is in fact a conglomoration of billions of components and does not constitute a singularity: an indivisible and irriducible ONE.
The Chinese are still experimenting to produce another creature with split hooves and one with chews its cud, using cross-specie manipulations, todisprove something/anything in the book which introduced Creationism and Monotheism - as a means of upping Communism to its people. It has not worked yet.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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IamJoseph
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Message 311 of 389 (631469)
09-01-2011 6:51 AM
Reply to: Message 310 by Admin
09-01-2011 6:17 AM


Re: No Sense Whatsoever!
what baloney is this, asking me to do so when a flagrantly ignorant question is pointed at me. Better that this be dealt with:
quote:
And what is admissible as a singularity? Do you even know what a "singularity" is, Joe, the kind of "singularity" we reference in the Big Bang and Black Holes? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
Yes I do know. There are 22 different singularities listed in most encyclopedia. I gave my version with sufficient qualification - irreducible and indivisible - as per the GUT. Deal with that!

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