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Taz
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Message 1 of 57 (632059)
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


Who's with me?
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Coyote
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Message 2 of 57 (632061)
09-05-2011 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


Sure.
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PaulK
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Message 3 of 57 (632062)
09-05-2011 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


I'm not. If he won't even make a good faith effort to address the issues that lead to his banning - and we've just seen him refuse to do that - he'll just take readmission as a vindication of his bad behaviour and go on pulling the same crap.
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jar
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Message 4 of 57 (632066)
09-05-2011 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


In each posting there are three participants, the poster, the person directly addressed and the far larger audience that reads but does not comment. It is that latter audience that is important.

It is important in my opinion to allow people like Buz to post there material if for no other reason than that it allows others to respond. That far larger audience that reads but does not participate is the real important one and it is that audience that is reached.

Buz provides necessary posts that provides a contrast needed.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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fearandloathing
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Message 5 of 57 (632067)
09-05-2011 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


As long as he follows admin/mods requests.

"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson

Ad astra per aspera

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.


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jar
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Message 6 of 57 (632070)
09-05-2011 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by fearandloathing
09-05-2011 2:19 PM


I think it is unreasonable for Moderators to request Buz to provide something that he does not understand, is not capable of understanding and that does not exist in the first place, something like evidence.

It's reasonable for posters to point out that Buz or any Creationist for that matter has not presented evidence and explain why, but it's unreasonable to expect them to be able to comply.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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hooah212002
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Message 7 of 57 (632071)
09-05-2011 2:27 PM


He was tasked, partially by himself, with writing up a thread about what constitutes evidence. He totally missed the point from the get go and gave up even trying, once again claiming bias and christian persecution. He has proven himself to be dishonest in every endeavor, even claiming victory when it was obvious he lost. I personally feel that any attempt he makes in the science section will be met with the same fate wherein we all ask him to provide evidence for his wack ass claims and he says he did, we just need to look for it in his post history. It is obvious he listens to no one, about anything.

If you want the continued downhill trend of EvC, sure, let Buz enter the science section. We could use more rabid pigeons flinging poo and knocking chess pieces around while claiming victory.


"Why don't you call upon your God to strike me? Oh, I forgot it's because he's fake like Thor, so bite me" -Greydon Square

    
fearandloathing
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Message 8 of 57 (632074)
09-05-2011 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by jar
09-05-2011 2:26 PM


Good point.

I was only thinking that once he runs off track and is asked to stop participating that he would, therefore not needing to be banned from all/future science topics, you never know....the next science topic might be where he has a meaningful debate? It could happen


"No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it off to forced conscious expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten."
Hunter S. Thompson

Ad astra per aspera

Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.


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Larni
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Message 9 of 57 (632076)
09-05-2011 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


It's not like Buzz has not had ample opportunities to post some actual evidence of hist ideas.

It now seems evident that he cannot grasp what is being asked of him.

What makes you think another go round will make things different?


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Omnivorous
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Message 10 of 57 (632081)
09-05-2011 3:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


Of course.

The debate frame here is Creation vs. Evolution.

If Buz (no offense intended, Buz, cheers!) could meet the evidential standards of scientific debate, he wouldn't be a creationist. Buz is not refusing to meet those standards.

Without creationist participation, it's one hand clapping.


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DrJones*
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Message 11 of 57 (632083)
09-05-2011 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


Let him back in.
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NoNukes
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Message 12 of 57 (632086)
09-05-2011 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


Let him back in.
He's going to make a fool out of himself when he's let back in, and he deserves every bit of the inevitable ridicule he'll get.

But if Bertot and IAmJ are valued participants, surely Buz is too.


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cavediver
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Message 13 of 57 (632088)
09-05-2011 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-05-2011 2:00 PM


Definitely, for the reasons exemplified by Jar and Omni.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 14 of 57 (632250)
09-06-2011 4:00 PM
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09-05-2011 2:00 PM


Meh. Why not?
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Panda
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Message 15 of 57 (632252)
09-06-2011 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by NoNukes
09-05-2011 3:35 PM


Re: Let him back in.
NoNukes writes:

But if Bertot and IAmJ are valued participants, surely Buz is too.


IMO: Buz is more valued.

Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR

Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.


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