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Author | Topic: Why prefer the Biblical creation account over those of other religions? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4209 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined:
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The Bible which you say is not "valid" seems spot on to me. How bout you? Do you see pear trees producing apple trees? You obviously know nothing about either natural selection or punctuated equilibrium. In neither would pear trees produce apple trees, that is just as ridiculous as the crocoduck.There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
I don't follow? You just lumped my entire post all into one big bowl of Gumbo and said I dont understand NS?
Im not comparing NS or PE to pear trees or apple trees.
In neither would pear trees produce apple trees, that is just as ridiculous as the crocoduck. Oh good, then you agree the Bible correctly predicts that kinds produce like kinds BUT you think evolution doesnt? Which is it?
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.2
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Oh good, then you agree the Bible correctly predicts that kinds produce like kinds BUT you think evolution doesnt?
Please define "kind"It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Before you start being wrong about Stephen Jay Gould and punctuated equilibrium, a search of these forums might be useful. Dr A, im not saying he is wrong. My point was that Science has moved past Darwin. As things prorress it doesn't mean the Bible is invalidated by progressions in Science, does it?
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Unfortunately just because I don't see pear trees producing apple trees, that doesn't make the Biblical creation story more valid than any other creation story. Each will have something we see today. Well, im not interested in every Creation story, just one. And because it's right doesnt mean it's any LESS valid than the rest either. Truth is not relative, one has to be absolutly right. BTW, most creation stories steal from the bible.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
most creation stories steal from the bible.
Did you follow the link PD supplied? Please show which of those steal from the bible. Then go hereList of creation myths - Wikipedia and show us which of those steal from the bible. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Chuck77 Inactive Member |
Please show which of those steal from the bible. I havn't read them all. Im talking about the most common ones like Islam, mormons, seventh day, jehovah witnesses etc... Of course all the ones in the article I never even heard of. Have you? Do you ever use them to dispute the Bible? No you don't. The one's I said above are often used as being in the same faith as christianity, which they are not. That's my point. I can't know every Creation myth, there so many.
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bluescat48 Member (Idle past 4209 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: |
No just that the creo's don't understand evolution. Genus A doesn't change to genus B, even in the same family. Even Punctuated equilibrium takes a number of generations, just less that natural selection.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969 Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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The one's I said above are often used as being in the same faith as christianity, which they are not. That's my point. I can't know every Creation myth, there so many. Then maybe you should not have said.
Chuck77 writes: most creation stories steal from the bible. Im talking about the most common ones like Islam, mormons, seventh day, jehovah witnesses etc...
Then your comment is just silly. The biblical creation account is a part of each of these religions, so how could that be seen as stealing? Sure the Islamic version is a little different but they come form the same tradition. So you did not read the link PD supplied?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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purpledawn Member (Idle past 3477 days) Posts: 4453 From: Indiana Joined:
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quote:Then what was your point in posting in this thread? How do you know that the Biblical account of creation is the true story, and not the accounts told by the Shinto and Hindus (Both of which are living faiths) for example? Citing the Bible is really invalidated by the other sagas (The Bible by itself is no more valid the others). What empirical evidence is there that proves the biblical creation story true and/or the other stories false. Message 1 The point is what makes the Biblical account of creation the true story over others? Your position is that the Bible describes what we see today, but other creation stories also describe what we see today. So that doesn't really show that the Bible is true over other creation stories. This thread isn't about whether you care about other creation stories or not, it is about showing why the Bible creation story is considered true (other than belief) and others are considered false. We already know people believe their respective creation stories are true due to faith and belief. The OP is asking for some evidence other than faith and belief that shows us one creation story is true over the others. If you feel that other creation stories steal from the Bible, you need to show it, not just say it. The OP isn't talking about the religions that evolved from Judaism. The Shinto and Hindus are two examples given. P.S. Don't get sucked into the science talk. This is the religious forum.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
How do you know that the Biblical account of creation is the true story, and not the accounts told by the Shinto and Hindus (Both of which are living faiths) for example? The Biblical record has a great deal of corroborating evidence for it's credibility.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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1. It is the only account which has fulfilled prophecy; a lot of it. I assume you can provide evidence to support that assertion?
2. Cultures who have followed the Biblical principles have been the most prosperous, blessed and free. That is supportive evidence that the Jehovah, the god of the Bible is the only true god. I assume you can provide evidence to support that assertion?
3. The Biblical account is by and large the only one that has the historical record from creation though out world history to the Christian era/dispensation. The others simply have the isolated distorted versions of the real thing. I assume you can provide evidence to support that assertion?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Jar, I've cited the evidence many times for these in the threads. You're secularistic bias forbids you to acknowledge it. To repeat it to you is a total waste of time and band-width.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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jar Member (Idle past 414 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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So no evidence or even links to where you claim to have provided such evidence.
Okay. So without any evidence is there some reason to think any of the different Biblical Creation myths over the much older Hindu Creation Myths?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Panda Member (Idle past 3732 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined:
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Buzsaw writes:
It is difficult to accept your claim that you have evidence when you have been banned from the science forum because you do not understand what evidence is. Jar, I've cited the evidence many times for these in the threads.I do not know a way forward from this. It is a shame that you couldn't agree a thread proposal with Admin regarding how evidence works.Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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