Potential Evidence for a Global Flood

Your first sentence: All of those links go to illustrations of the geologic time scale (aka "THE geologic column").There are no strata (rock) layers in those illustrations. They say nothing about sedimentation rates.I refer you to a message of mine in another topic - The geologic time scale (aka the "geologic column"). There's some pretty good discussion of things "geologic column" there and upthread, including some links to very good discussion well upthread.MooseEdited by Minnemooseus, : Turn an "If" into an "I".

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Kettle bottoms are smooth, rounded pieces of rock within the mine roof which may drop without warning.

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His sourceThe kettle bottom discussion is really just a side note about how the so called polystrate trees effect underground mine safety. While that article doesn't specifically say that the kettle bottom rock crosses through strata, I think that such is indeed the case.While that was indeed an interesting side note (I have worked underground, not in coal), that mine safety reference would have been best left out of the message. It is a distraction, not really added information.Or something like that.No replies to this message needed. And this is not the place to discuss working in underground mines.Moose

My "bolding".I agree with the "bolded" sentence. I almost missed the distinction between that and Granny's interpretation.I think DA is interpreting the phrase "as well preserved at the top as at the bottom" a little to literally (aka nitpicking). I think the trunk tops and even branches may be well preserved, but expecting leave preservation is going a bit far.Now the strata containing the root systems and the strata containing the higher parts of the trees are certainly two different things, and I don't think Just Being Real is trying to say otherwise. The higher parts of the trees may or may not have been buried in a single event. Burial may have taken minutes, or it may have taken hundreds of years. Looking at the details, including the nature of the rock, would probably tell you which was the case.Now different tree horizons at completely different stratagraphic levels are another thing. You are not going to get root system paleosoils covered by some sort of "flood event", then stratigraphicly higher up root system paleosoils covered by some sort of "flood event", all from the same "flood event". [sarcasm] Except in the case of "THE GREAT FLOOD", which is capable of doing any type of geologic deposits, regardless of how complex.[/sarcasm]Please, no replies to the [sarcasm][/sarcasm] part.Moose

I am a geologist by training, if not by occupation.I see this topic as being independent of young Earth or old Earth considerations. What I see as the essential time frame consideration is that the creationist perspective is that alleged flood event duration was about a year, and in that year vast amounts of sediment was eroded from an unknown source and redeposited as an uncertain but considerable portion of the Earth's various stratagraphies (not to mention all kinds of other geologic processes also having happened).Studies of the various sediments and other events show evidence of a vast array of processes. The reality is that some of these would happen underwater, some would not, and some are independent of water cover considerations. All this points to a very long and complicated process, yet the creationist perspective is that it all was done by a 1 year flood event.The creationist perspective is that the flood, directly or indirectly, can do pretty much anything and can do it in an incredibly short amount of time. That doesn't make sense regardless of when said flood happened, be it 5000 years ago, 4.5 billion years ago, or at any point in between.The true story of the creation and the reworking of the creation can be discerned by looking at the creation. The true story is "written in the rocks".MooseAdded by edit: Not only not done by a 1 year flood event, not done by any single flood event regardless of its duration.Edited by Minnemooseus, : Didn't like my original subtitle.Edited by Minnemooseus, : As noted above.