Potential Evidence for a Global Flood

I can think of one unlikely event producing unlikely things. Chaotic waters like you propose do not make laminated sediments of fine clay and diatoms. Only annual processes in temperate climates do this as diatoms bloom in the warm seasons and clay dominates in the cold seasons. In Lake Suigetsu, we find hundreds of thousands of these annual layers, one on top of another, uninterrupted by a global flood. The flood is falsified.

Fine clay particles do not settle out of flows. You need still waters for this. Also, you need an entire warm season to produce just one layer of diatoms. Your flood model can not explain this. We observe lakes producing them now. Not only is it likely, it is happening right now. Yes, it is evidence. That's the whole point. We observe lakes producing alternating layers of diatoms and fine clay sediments right here and now. We observe hundreds of thousands of these layers in lakes, uninterrupted by any global flood. We observe that chaotic flows do not allow for the settling of fine clay and diatoms. I think the conclusion is very clear. No, they can't. Fine clay particles can not settle out of chaotic flowing waters. They flow with the water. That is why you have deltas in rivers that empty into the ocean. As the flowing waters stop they dump the fine clay sediments that were flowing with the water.Also, you need to account for hundreds of thousands of years worth of diatom growth in a single flood year. That doesn't work either. Even worse, you need to explain the 14C dating of insect and leaf debris found in these layers. They are consistent with annual processes as well, as discussed here by our very own RAZD:http://razd.evcforum.net/Age_Dating.htm#Lake_Suigetsu_VarvesSo there are three falsifications of a global flood here:1. Fine sediments found in these layers can not be laid down by chaotic flowing waters.2. Hundreds of thousands of years worth of diatom growth.3. 14C dating of organic material is consistent with annual deposition. Layers of what type of sediment? If it wasn't alternating layers of fine clay sediments and diatoms that sorted insect and leaf debris by tiny differences in 14C then you haven't addressed the evidence.

[sarcasm]The flood was so different that it was able to sort all of the freshwater diatoms in one deposit and all of the marine phytoplankton in another. Amazing, isn't it!!![/sarcasm]

Then you need to point to specific formations that these pulses created and show how they produced alternating layers of fine grained sediments and diatoms as well as sorting organic debris by tiny differences in 14C. Until you do so, you have no argument. This is only the first, tiny step on the way to demonstrating that the flood actually occurred. Your next step is to figure out what type of evidence would falsify your ideas. The next step is actually finding evidence that support your ideas.You will notice that the title of this thread is "Potential Evidence for a Global Flood". The title is not "Imaginations on the Global Flood". You need to supply evidence to support your ideas.

So where in the field do we see catastrophic processes producing alternating layers of fine grained clay and diatoms where insect and leaf debris have been sorted by minute differences in 14C (insects/leaves with higher 14C on top). Either show us this evidence or admit that there is none.

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The evidence for great moving water is great accumulations of sediment.

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What about sediments that are deposited by wind such as the Coconino sandstones? What about massive salt deposits in the middle of your supposed flood? What about sediments that are made up of massive amounts of life, such as the chalk cliffs at Dover where there is several hundred feet of cocolithophores? Catastrophic flooding does not produce these features.

What were the size of the particles in the graded bedforms? Were they large or fine? Did these graded bedforms also contain alternating layers of diatoms and clay? Did these process sort organic debris by minute differences in 14C concentrations?Until you answer these questions you have no case. Catastrophic events create large deposits of coarse grained sediments, not fine grained sediments. Therefore, fine grained sediments are evidence against a catastophic event and are instead evidence of long term sedimentation. This is further supported by annual deposition of seasonal diatoms and the sorting of terrestrial organic debris by 14C content. Yes there is. I list several reasons above, and you refuse to deal with them.