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crashfrog
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Message 260 of 297 (633819)
09-16-2011 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by Alfred Maddenstein
09-16-2011 3:28 PM


Three things can't, by definition, be in a "dialectical unity". Dia means "two." Una means "one."
You've produced what I think is the English language's first three-way contradiction in terms.

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crashfrog
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Message 291 of 297 (634033)
09-18-2011 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 261 by Alfred Maddenstein
09-16-2011 4:02 PM


That was implied here as the conscious human observer is an emergent property of both cosmic and quantum scales impossible without either just as either is not possible without the other one.
As you wish, but that by definition can't be "dialectical unity."

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crashfrog
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Message 294 of 297 (634056)
09-18-2011 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 292 by Alfred Maddenstein
09-18-2011 5:45 PM


Re: dialetical unity
Well, the dialectical opposition here is between very great and very small. The average which is the result of the clash between great and small is the resulting third term. In this case this is the ordinary scale of existence. What is your objection to that?
That it's stupid nonsense?

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crashfrog
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Message 296 of 297 (634070)
09-18-2011 8:24 PM
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09-18-2011 6:46 PM


Re: dialetical unity
You are not alone in that as the idea that a Planck particle, i.e. something very small could have existed on its own and in an absolute isolation while embedded in pure nothing at the time zero is embraced by millions of professionals as the height of current scientific wisdom.
That's certainly not the case, as this bears no relationship to any mainstream scientific thought.
Which view is stupid nonsense here and which is not is the question.
You don't even have a view, Maddenstein. You have a word salad, and somehow you've convinced yourself that you can produce scientific thought by aping scientific language. It's most likely the case that actual scientific positions are so beyond your capabilities that they seem like nonsense to you, and your hope is that if you produce nonsense that sounds something like it, you've somehow accidentally produced knowledge. You're like a kind of accidental Sokal affair, or another one in the vein of the Bogandov brothers. Only, the difference between you and those other instances of scientific pomposity is that they were actually able to fool people. You've fooled only Bolder-Dash, apparently, which is approximately as difficult as convincing a two-year-old that you've stolen his nose.

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