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IamJoseph
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Message 166 of 301 (635371)
09-28-2011 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 165 by Butterflytyrant
09-28-2011 10:25 PM


Re: time for a bit of intellectual honesty
If someone says Genesis is myth, they have to give an example. I can list more than 50,000 stats and prove beyond any doubt there is no writings with more proof of historical credibility in existence any place.

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Message 167 of 301 (635373)
09-28-2011 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 166 by IamJoseph
09-28-2011 10:31 PM


Re: time for a bit of intellectual honesty
If someone says Genesis is myth, they have to give an example. I can list more than 50,000 stats and prove beyond any doubt there is no writings with more proof of historical credibility in existence any place.
Please do so, in a new thread.
But don't forget to lead with talking snakes, young earth, global flood ca. 4,350 years ago, and that silly tower.
And don't worry about any other writings. Your claim is about Genesis so that's what you have to defend.
See you on your new thread, eh?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Butterflytyrant
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Message 168 of 301 (635375)
09-28-2011 10:50 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by IamJoseph
09-28-2011 10:16 PM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
IamJoseph,
Ths debate has been won - its another check mate, based on no credible defense outside of denial.
I am a little bit concerned that you may actually believe this to be true.
Lets look at the facts.
You have put forward a solution. You have not been able to provide any possible real way this solution could be achieved. You have not even come up with any half credible ideas regarding how your solution could be achieved. You have been provided with a large number of major problems with your solution. You have not been ableto come up with any credible ways to resolve any of the major problems being put forward by your solution. You have been given information that illustrates how and why your solution is impossible. You have been provided with information that illustrates that your solution is also inhumane.
Other posters including myself have provided you with an alternate solution. This solution has been backed up with facts, statistics and verifiable sources. Real world current examples and information has been provided to you that show that it is not only possible, it is actually occuring. The solution i put forward is actual reality. You have not put forward any arguements that illustrate problems with this solution.
So we have your solution -
untested, unproven, not sourced, not verified, relies on technologies that dont actually exist, inhumane, unsupported, incomplete, unrealistic, not supported by reality, argued against, overloaded with currently insurmountable problems and (some elements) impossible.
And the alternate solution -
Tested, currently proven to be working, sourced, verified, relies on existing technology, humane, supported by most of the world, realistic, actually occuring in reality, argued for, has no currently insurmountable problems and is not only possible, but currently working.
How is it possible that you beleive that your position is the winning position?
Oh yeah, you don't recognise reality.
As far as I can tell, you have never actually participated in a debate let alone won one.
Flinging shit like a rabid monkey then screaming check mate does not alter reality.
This is you -
You have argued against reality. Your desire to remain intentionally ignorant prevents you from seeing that.
Keep clapping your cymbals...

I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong
Butterfly, AKA, mallethead - Dawn Bertot
"Superstitions and nonsense from the past should not prevent us from making progress. If we hold ourselves back, we admit that our fears are more powerful than our abilities." Hunters of Dune Herbert & Anderson

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IamJoseph
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Message 169 of 301 (635382)
09-28-2011 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 167 by Coyote
09-28-2011 10:42 PM


A LIE BY OMSSION IS - SURPRISE, SURPRISE - A LIE.
It was not a snake, it never happened on earth, the universe & the earth according to Genesis is billions of years old [the text], the tower was not silly and speech endowed humans are under 6000. Keep reading Genesis according to those who never understood or observed it. Your kind of intellectual honesty.
Genesis' intellectual honesty: the universe is finite, once no laws existed, all products are caused by laws and seperations, the first recorded name is Adam, the first listing of life form groupings in in Genesis, the oldest active calendar and the first alphabetical book is the Hebrew one and humanity will live by magestic laws.

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IamJoseph
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Message 170 of 301 (635383)
09-28-2011 11:50 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by Butterflytyrant
09-28-2011 10:50 PM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
quote:
Lets look at the facts.
This is not a trick question:
Q. What is the use-by date of sustainable development and what then?

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Butterflytyrant
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Message 171 of 301 (635385)
09-29-2011 12:08 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by IamJoseph
09-28-2011 11:50 PM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
This is not a trick question:
Q. What is the use-by date of sustainable development and what then?
There is no use by date. That is the cornerstone of sustainable development.
Your claims that you understand the concept are obviously lies.
You have read none of the information on the topic yet you are so bold as to claim to dispute it.
How can you dispute something you do not have the faintest comprehension of?
This is the definition of sustainable development -
Sustainable development
"Sustainable development is development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs. It contains within it two key concepts:
1. the concept of 'needs', in particular the essential needs of the world's poor, to which overriding priority should be given; and
2. the idea of limitations imposed by the state of technology and social organization on the environment's ability to meet present and future needs.
read this -
Sustainable development - Wikipedia
and this -
Sustainable development - Wikipedia
When you have read those pages, you will have the basic understanding of the concept.
Without that knowledge, you comments are nothing but you clapping your symbols.

I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong
Butterfly, AKA, mallethead - Dawn Bertot
"Superstitions and nonsense from the past should not prevent us from making progress. If we hold ourselves back, we admit that our fears are more powerful than our abilities." Hunters of Dune Herbert & Anderson

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IamJoseph
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Message 172 of 301 (635411)
09-29-2011 5:50 AM
Reply to: Message 168 by Butterflytyrant
09-28-2011 10:50 PM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
You are asking that I must 'PROVE' how man can land on the moon before it happened. My response is there is nothing stopping us from formulating a plan how a dome city can be established on the Lunar soil, and further this is incumbent for humanity. Your rejections are based on this not being possible and that it will not serve any purpose - both are bogus responses.
The premise of dreaming this planet can house all life forever or that we need not concern ourselves about the assured future hurtlying our way is also a folly. The interim measures to accomodate humanity are just that - interim measures before a tsunami hits ground zero. Some 95% of humanity has a problem with the Hebrew bible for very obvious reasons - they fall into an abyss when they are exposed as wrong in their claims. This greatly impacts so-called atheists, agnostics and other worldly beliefs - they dump all their anxst against other theologies on the Hebrew bible. But the world turns by magestic laws found only in one document. There is no solution for humanity and all other life frms save for the advocation in Genesis. Thus:
YOU SHALL NOT FOLLOW A CORRUPT MULTITUDE.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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frako
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Message 173 of 301 (635413)
09-29-2011 5:53 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by IamJoseph
09-29-2011 5:50 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
My response is there is nothing stopping us from formulating a plan how a dome city can be established on the Lunar soil
Well eccept radiation, the cost of transportiong food to it, air, power, meteorites, .........

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 174 of 301 (635414)
09-29-2011 5:53 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by Butterflytyrant
09-29-2011 12:08 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
quote:
There is no use by date.
Estimate the population of humanity and rabbits 500 years from now.

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IamJoseph
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Message 175 of 301 (635416)
09-29-2011 5:56 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by frako
09-29-2011 5:53 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Well eccept radiation,
This is covered by a protective dome.
the cost of transportiong food to it,
Most foods can be cultivated in controlled atmospheres.
air,
Imagine a dome sized space suit.
power,
Electricity is not limited to earth and can be harnessed anyplace.
meteorites, .........
Generic to all locations in the universe.

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frako
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Message 176 of 301 (635417)
09-29-2011 5:56 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by IamJoseph
09-29-2011 5:53 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Well if we are smart about it 3 billon humans and 1 billion rabbits

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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frako
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Message 177 of 301 (635418)
09-29-2011 6:03 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by IamJoseph
09-29-2011 5:56 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
This is covered by a protective dome.
Aha so we are making this dome out of lead then ??
Most foods can be cultivated in controlled atmospheres.
So basically thise dome city would actuially be a farm with a few dozen people or are they livin on rations of a few grains of rice a day?
Imagine a dome sized space suit.
So what material does not leak air?
Electricity is not limited to earth and can be harnessed anyplace.
So do we have nuclear reactors up there?
Generic to all locations in the universe.
Yea take a look at a picture of the moon you might see that meteorites on the moon tend not to burn up in the athmosphere because there is no athmosphere.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 178 of 301 (635420)
09-29-2011 6:18 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Minnemooseus
08-31-2011 4:33 AM


Re: Shirley you're joking!!!
quote:
Your saying "Destroy the planet and then abandon ship for Mars".
The only solution for humanity and to save this planet is acquiring new additional lands to house 100s of 1000s of years sustainance and natural population increase. Not doing so will destroy humanity and all life on this planet.

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IamJoseph
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Message 179 of 301 (635421)
09-29-2011 6:19 AM
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09-29-2011 6:03 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
It will be a first of 1000s of cities.

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frako
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Message 180 of 301 (635427)
09-29-2011 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 178 by IamJoseph
09-29-2011 6:18 AM


Re: Shirley you're joking!!!
The only solution for humanity and to save this planet is acquiring new additional lands to house 100s of 1000s of years sustainance and natural population increase.
Our population increase is not "natural" per se
In nature when a child of any species is borne with a disbility it dies ours dont
In nature when an epidemic strikes a population loads of the population dies we have man made medicine
In nature the population cannot increase more then the enviorments food supplys aloows ours do because we import food cultivate food .....
In nature when an individual gets too old it dies because it cant hunt anymore we die way beyond our prime (mostly)
.....

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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