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IamJoseph
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Message 196 of 301 (635622)
09-30-2011 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 195 by frako
09-30-2011 7:15 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Everything in the universe is expanding and compoundedly [faster with time]. While it is uncertain how the next generation will evolve, due to recent conflicts, natural disasters and economic declines - the big picture of history says increase is inevitable; decrease is death - aka sustainable development.
If humanity cannot facilitate and accomodate growth then it has no business being at the helm. Negating growth is not a strategy - it is the lack of one. To make your day even worse - Genesis triumphs here.

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frako
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Message 197 of 301 (635625)
09-30-2011 7:42 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by IamJoseph
09-30-2011 7:30 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Well in nature its a bit simpler if its good year rabbits multiply and so do the wolves cause thers more food if its a bad year their populations decrease there is no reason why a decrease in population means death.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 198 of 301 (635628)
09-30-2011 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 197 by frako
09-30-2011 7:42 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
quote:
there is no reason why a decrease in population means death.
That's what I say. Sustainable development interfears with populations, treating it as death. Its life, actually, and can only be sustained by making accomodation for them. If there is a period of no growth, it is the best time to create living bases for the assured increase the following period. We don't kill off students when a class gets full - we build new schools. Same equation applies.

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frako
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Message 199 of 301 (635633)
09-30-2011 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by IamJoseph
09-30-2011 8:22 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
That's what I say.
U sure about that
just one message ago you wrote
the big picture of history says increase is inevitable; decrease is death - aka sustainable development.
so is decrease in a population death or no??
If there is a period of no growth, it is the best time to create living bases for the assured increase the following period.
correct so we need a period of no growth better yet a period of decreese so we can create spaceship techology capable of colonising other planets.
We don't kill off students when a class gets full - we build new schools. Same equation applies.
What do we do when there is no place to build a new school?? We are at a minimum of 300 years away from leaving this rock and colonising a new world new land so what do we do??

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 200 of 301 (635637)
09-30-2011 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by frako
09-30-2011 9:03 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
quote:
U sure about that
just one message ago you wrote
the big picture of history says increase is inevitable; decrease is death - aka sustainable development.
so is decrease in a population death or no??
Natural fluctuations are not the same as killing off segments of the population.
quote:
correct so we need a period of no growth better yet a period of decreese so we can create spaceship techology capable of colonising other planets.
We don't need it, but we use it if it occurs.
quote:
What do we do when there is no place to build a new school?? We are at a minimum of 300 years away from leaving this rock and colonising a new world new land so what do we do??
We decide to fix the problem of the future now. We do not kill off the students. When we are short of land it means we are already late and on the wrong path. When all the excuses are exhausted, we are left staring eye to eye at Genesis.

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IamJoseph
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Message 201 of 301 (635638)
09-30-2011 9:26 AM
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09-30-2011 9:03 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
quote:
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more
One of some 2 million who perished under depraved Rome. The Jews won.

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frako
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Message 202 of 301 (635639)
09-30-2011 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by IamJoseph
09-30-2011 9:25 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Natural fluctuations are not the same as killing off segments of the population.
WHO IS TALKING ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE????????????????????????????
Just dont have to many kids max 2
We decide to fix the problem of the future now.
Yes by not having so many babies
We do not kill off the students.
Correct
When we are short of land it means we are already late and on the wrong path.
Right so stop making so many babies!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When all the excuses are exhausted, we are left staring eye to eye at Genesis.
Right and how wrong it was to put us on a path where we breed like rabbits
Edited by frako, : No reason given.
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 203 of 301 (635640)
09-30-2011 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by frako
09-30-2011 9:34 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
It won't work that way. The greater the population, the worse the pollution - the better the chances of successfully prevailing of this primal issue for humanity. The preamble must be extending forth, not emulating China. It is about humanity's greatest question, which must include the right to live and reproduce life abundently and to use this power effectively.

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frako
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Message 204 of 301 (635642)
09-30-2011 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by IamJoseph
09-30-2011 9:39 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
It won't work that way.
It alredy is
The greater the population, the worse the pollution
So you think polution is a good thing wouldent it be better to lower the population and the polution???
the better the chances of successfully prevailing of this primal issue for humanity
No the better the chances we fuck this planet up so badly we go extinct
The preamble must be extending forth, not emulating China.
Why not ?? Because their GDP per capita is on the rise?? Because they are the nr 1 exporter of the world?? Because they own half of the rest world??
It is about humanity's greatest question, which must include the right to live and reproduce life abundently and to use this power effectively.
Sure you go and breed 10, 20 children call me when you send each and every one of them to an university to get an education.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 205 of 301 (635644)
09-30-2011 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by frako
09-30-2011 9:48 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
The correct way is if the class room is brim full then another classroom must be secured, preferably way before that stage. This factor is the topside preamble; looking after the full class is obligatory and cannot be used as a defense of the preamble factor being set aside.

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frako
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Message 206 of 301 (635645)
09-30-2011 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 205 by IamJoseph
09-30-2011 9:52 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
The correct way is if the class room is brim full then another classroom must be secured, preferably way before that stage.
And what if there is no posibility of making a new class room???? because there is no space??
What about food for your 20 children do you think you will be able to provide for them??
clothes you think you could clothe all of your 20 children??
What about books do you think you could buy schoolbooks for all of your 20 children???
Or would you rather see them naked and starving and dumb just so you can say you have 20 children and you are obying your imaginary friends command.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 207 of 301 (635650)
09-30-2011 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by frako
09-30-2011 9:56 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
The two scenarious are not mutually exclusive of each other nor in competition. Its a deflection of addressing the fundamental issue. The advocation to go forth and acquire new habitats does not also mean the current people must not be considered. The advocation is first made to assist humanity, not disregard it; its questioning is the depravity. Genesis has well anticipated our future and made the correct and only path for survival with no alternatives on the table.

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frako
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Message 208 of 301 (635652)
09-30-2011 10:16 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by IamJoseph
09-30-2011 10:14 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
The two scenarious are not mutually exclusive of each other nor in competition
No, you want to increase human population you do it have 20 kids!! Or is something wrong with having to many kids??

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Posts: 2822
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Message 209 of 301 (635653)
09-30-2011 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 208 by frako
09-30-2011 10:16 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
quote:
Or is something wrong with having to many kids??
Irrelevent. It is not a 'subject to' issue.

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frako
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Message 210 of 301 (635654)
09-30-2011 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 209 by IamJoseph
09-30-2011 10:21 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Irrelevent. It is not a 'subject to' issue.
It is a subject to the issue THE CORE SUBJECT IN FACT
anwser or is your god wrong and your genesis wrong and it is wrong to have to many kids if you or the population cannot provide for them??? Or is it ok to have as many as you want as anyone wants no matter that they are hungry, naked, and dumb ???

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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