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Author Topic:   Peanut Gallery - The Hebrew Bible (Butterflytyrant and IamJoseph Only)
IamJoseph
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Message 6 of 22 (635646)
09-30-2011 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by purpledawn
09-30-2011 6:40 AM


Re: Bible Study
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We bring evidence to the thread. We don't make our opponents hunt for it.
Agreed. But one cannot abuse this premise. One cannot ask for proof of the blatant, and what is more blatant than questioning the most known verse of all writings, that the opening verse of Genesis is IN THE BEGINNING. A whole serialized debate was ensued over this matter and all because this well known verse was questioned to kingdom come for "PROOF". Lucky I never mentioned the alphabets start with ABC.

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IamJoseph
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Message 7 of 22 (635648)
09-30-2011 10:08 AM
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09-29-2011 6:41 AM


Re: Bible Study
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IamJoseph is correct in his terminology and isn't excluding scrolls when he uses the word "book".
Is not the issue made moot with the qualification of 'AN APHABETICAL MULTI-PAGE CONTINUEING NARRATIVE'? An auto defense mode which does not allow any agreement on anything is hardly a debate - it becomes just another fundamentalist, talibanic theological stance, while beating one's chest and decrying all as theological nonsense.

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IamJoseph
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Message 11 of 22 (635710)
09-30-2011 8:58 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by caffeine
09-30-2011 10:52 AM


Re: A flat earth
I'd appreciate any evidence of the Greeks observing anything other than only a flat earth with a circus canopy of stars atop - this is infact what Christianity took on board till the telescope was discovered. Islam is not in the loop - it is a new belief system, its scriptures upholding a flat earth, with 90% of ts scriptures being a lift off from the Hebrew and Christian bibles; Arabic itself is a new writings emerging as recently as 300 CE.
When examing the workings of the Hebrew calendar, which is unquely based on the solar, lunar and earth movements, there is no other understanding than of a sphearical earth.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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IamJoseph
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Message 15 of 22 (635718)
10-01-2011 12:23 AM
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09-30-2011 9:37 PM


Re: A flat earth
OK. You may talk about me when I'm not here.

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Message 16 of 22 (635720)
10-01-2011 12:31 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Wollysaurus
09-30-2011 11:24 PM


Re: A flat earth
Sorry, couldn't resist
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Spherical Earth From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
Medieval artistic representation of a spherical Earth - with compartments representing earth, air, and water (c. 1400).The concept of a spherical Earth dates back to ancient Greek philosophy from around the 6th century BC,[1] but remained a matter of philosophical speculation until the 3rd century BC when Hellenistic astronomy established the spherical shape of the earth as a physical given. The Hellenistic paradigm was gradually adopted throughout the Old World during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages.[2][3][4][5]
See those tiny numbers in brackets end of setences referring to references? Look below at the dates they represent - they are conjectures and opinions made 1000's of years later. I'd appreciate any hard copy proof of any such greek writings older than the Hebrew or pre-300 BCE. Take your time - no hurry.
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References1.^ Dicks, D.R. (1970). Early Greek Astronomy to Aristotle. Ithaca, N.Y.: Cornell University Press. pp. 72—198. ISBN 9780801405617.
2.^ a b Continuation into Roman and medieval thought: Reinhard Krger: "Materialien und Dokumente zur mittelalterlichen Erdkugeltheorie von der Sptantike bis zur Kolumbusfahrt (1492)"
3.^ a b Direct adoption of the Greek concept by Islam: Ragep, F. Jamil: "Astronomy", in: Krmer, Gudrun (ed.) et al.: Encyclopaedia of Islam, THREE, Brill 2010, without page numbers
4.^ a b Direct adoption by India: D. Pingree: "History of Mathematical Astronomy in India", Dictionary of Scientific Biography, Vol. 15 (1978), pp. 533−633 (554f.); Glick, Thomas F., Livesey, Steven John, Wallis, Faith (eds.): "Medieval Science, Technology, and Medicine: An Encyclopedia", Routledge, New York 2005, ISBN0-415-96930-1, p. 463

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