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IamJoseph
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Message 211 of 301 (635657)
09-30-2011 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 210 by frako
09-30-2011 10:24 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Its not wrong to have kids. It is wrong to enslave more than one wife. Genesis was yet never wrong. There is a good reason Europe dropped the dead donkey of Helenism and accepted the Hebrew bible - ut stood her in good stead thus far and is her greatest single action.

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frako
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Message 212 of 301 (635658)
09-30-2011 10:51 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by IamJoseph
09-30-2011 10:35 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
Its not wrong to have kids.
So go and have 20 kids then or would 20 be too much??
It is wrong to enslave more than one wife.
Hmm yet many kings in the bible had loads of wives but that is not the issue
There is a good reason Europe dropped the dead donkey of Helenism and accepted the Hebrew bible
Dunno about greece but my ancestors worshiped Perun, Morana, Vesna..... many gods and where forced with the point of the sword by the all loving christians to woship their ded jew on a stick
P.s.
stop walking around like a cat around hot porrage and anwser
Is it ok to have 20 kids and not be able to provide for them so they are starving, naked and dumb, Or is it beter to have 2 kids who are clothed, educated, and fed?
Edited by frako, : No reason given.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 213 of 301 (635709)
09-30-2011 8:43 PM


ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
3-D Printing is already here. In the very near future, less than 10 years away, we will be able to order chairs, shoes, beds, processed foods, medicine, offspring and a host of designed objects digitally in a file, which can be downloaded in a 3-D laser shop. Transportation and the applicable tme factor as we now know it will become obsolete. These new knowledge bytes, IMHO, are not random or accidental, but pointers where humanity is and must point to or is pointed to. Holland and Israel are at the forefront of this new technology, combining art and industry as a new science.
New warfare is also around the corner. An attack on another country will no more be via manned jets but via a screen by satelite. Targets will be digitally mapped out and click erased. But this will eventually be used for beneficial means by mapping segments of solar system space and terrains adjusted for habitation. MAD [mutually assured destruction] will eventually negate wars, making globally agreed laws and humanity oriented goals incumbent.
If we look back just half a century, no one imagined we could transport a color image or a music work within seconds across the planet uncorrupted. Today it is the only way to travel.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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bluescat48
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Message 214 of 301 (635713)
09-30-2011 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 213 by IamJoseph
09-30-2011 8:43 PM


Re: ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
Are we also going to be able to download a technician, when something goes wrong?*
* to those who don't know me, this post is sarcasm.

There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002
Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008

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IamJoseph
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Message 215 of 301 (635717)
10-01-2011 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 214 by bluescat48
09-30-2011 11:06 PM


Re: ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
to those who don't know me, this post is NOT sarcasm.
quote:
3D printing is just around the corner
Published on : 19 January 2011 - 2:22pm | By Earth Beat . (Photo: Freedom Of Creation) More about: 3D printingEarth Beatenvironmentmanufacturingmass productiontechnology
3D printing allows you to print up physical objects at just the touch of a button. A whistle, a shoe, a bolt for a tractor, or even a whole tractor, there are printers that can print up your object - layer by layer - to make a solid three-dimensional structure. Custom-made for you, whenever you want. No more mass production and no need to transport goods around the world. Whatever you need, at the touch of a button.
http://www.rnw.nl/.../article/3d-printing-just-around-corner

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frako
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Message 216 of 301 (635765)
10-01-2011 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by IamJoseph
10-01-2011 12:21 AM


Re: ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
And this was what?
Predicted by genesis?
going to slow population gorowth?
Going to feed the masses?
going to create new Land?
And you still have not answered my above post

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 217 of 301 (635768)
10-01-2011 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 212 by frako
09-30-2011 10:51 AM


Re: CHECK MATE IS IN ORDER.
quote:
Dunno about greece but my ancestors worshiped Perun, Morana, Vesna..... many gods and where forced with the point of the sword by the all loving christians to woship their ded jew on a stick
The correct path is to impress only by example, as in being a light unto others. But the two biggest religions have core doctrines in contradiction of this path. Mighty Rome tried this way and became negated by it.
quote:
Is it ok to have 20 kids and not be able to provide for them so they are starving, naked and dumb, Or is it beter to have 2 kids who are clothed, educated, and fed?
Once a child's head protrudes and it can breathe, it takes precedence of the parent's life. Before this point, we must never obstruct life - unless it endangers the parent - a factor which has taken many forms of interpretation today. In all cases we have to instead find ways to accomodate life - this is the testing. The hunger and poverty was not caused by new life - the reverse is the case - the poverty was caused by bad laws and corruption. The size of the population does not determine how humanity functions - its what that life does which determines this. Magestic laws rule and all populations, religions, ideologies, etc must be judged by the laws they accept and reject. Only the laws we follow make us human.

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IamJoseph
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Message 218 of 301 (635770)
10-01-2011 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 216 by frako
10-01-2011 9:36 AM


Re: ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
quote:
Predicted by genesis?
Yes. GO FORTH means go forthrightly. MULTIPLY means also in wisdom and knowledge. This is advocated to all of humanity, to nations and individuals. It aligns with the inner wirings and attributes possessed by humans. There is no turning back or pausing - everything in the universe is moving, spinning and expanding - everything is going forth and multiplying.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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frako
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Message 219 of 301 (635784)
10-01-2011 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by IamJoseph
10-01-2011 10:05 AM


Re: ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
MULTIPLY means also in wisdom and knowledge
Um but when the thower of babel was built god destroyed it and made everyone speak different languages cause he didnt like our knowlage.

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 220 of 301 (635811)
10-01-2011 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by frako
10-01-2011 2:34 PM


Re: ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
Humanty was made to follow the GO FORTH premise, the languages signifying new knowledge for new lands. It applies today also. Most of the stuff we will need with come from new knowledge, as seen in the 3-D printing for futuristic space journeys - we will not need to transport heavy cargo, and everything needed will be provided via 'OPENING THE EYES OF THE BLIND'.

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Message 221 of 301 (635813)
10-01-2011 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by IamJoseph
10-01-2011 9:18 PM


Reality check
we will not need to transport heavy cargo
3-D printers will not create matter. Even if such a thing comes to pass the raw materials will be needed. You may not have to bring the desk, but you will need the composite material to "print" the desk from.
Your 3-D printing idea is not a magic bullet.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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IamJoseph
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Message 222 of 301 (635814)
10-01-2011 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 221 by Theodoric
10-01-2011 9:24 PM


Re: Reality check
quote:
You may not have to bring the desk, but you will need the composite material to "print" the desk from.
I say this won't be required - the raw materials will be provided for in the terrain we choose. One must understand the deeper significance of the premise - just like an antidote for a poison is very nearby, the requirement for sustenance will also be at hand. Otherwise humanity would not have survived to this day even on earth. New knowledge will bop up and is already contained in the seed which includes a program for expansion. Some call it survival of the fittest - but this is really a program embedded in the universe and within the essence of humanity.

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frako
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Message 223 of 301 (635841)
10-02-2011 6:25 AM
Reply to: Message 220 by IamJoseph
10-01-2011 9:18 PM


Re: ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
"They are one people and have one language, and nothing will be withholden from them which they purpose to do." So God said, "Come, let us go down and confound their speech.
Yea i see your intepretation now lol

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand
Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more

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IamJoseph
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Message 224 of 301 (635845)
10-02-2011 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 223 by frako
10-02-2011 6:25 AM


Re: ITS CALLED FUTURE SHOCK.
I do not think 'speech' is older than 6000 years because of the vacuum of any evidence, and because of the indication that languages began simultainiously throughout the planet, as well numerous base blocks of languages emerging at one time. We do not even have a 'name' before 6000, the pivotal mark of speech, and all eerily aligning with the exact datings in Genesis. No sane mind can disregard these factors.
Edited by IamJoseph, : No reason given.

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Message 225 of 301 (635859)
10-02-2011 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 224 by IamJoseph
10-02-2011 7:41 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
I do not think 'speech' is older than 6000 years because of the vacuum of any evidence, and because of the indication that languages began simultainiously throughout the planet, as well numerous base blocks of languages emerging at one time.
Homo habilis dates to between 2.4 and 1.5 million years ago and the brain shape shows evidence that some speech had developed.
Homo erectus lived between 1.8 million and 300,000 years ago and definitely had speech.
As for all languages beginning simultaneously, the linguists would dispute that.
We do not even have a 'name' before 6000, the pivotal mark of speech...
Could this be a matter of no written records prior to 6,000 years ago rather than the lack of speech?
You might consider this possibility, as the evidence of brain development and skeletal anatomy definitely places speech prior to 6,000 years ago.
Perhaps your beliefs are wrong, and could be helped by looking at facts?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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