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Theodoric
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Message 77 of 200 (635532)
09-29-2011 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by cavediver
09-29-2011 2:42 PM


Re: Tea Party vs Christian Coalition
To the satire

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 122 of 200 (635820)
10-01-2011 10:52 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by AZPaul3
10-01-2011 9:50 PM


Re: to be fair to all humans ...
Except for the fact that Palin turned out to be substantially correct in her Revere story,
Really? Really??
Her original quote.
quote:
He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms uh by ringing those bells and making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed.
Her later defense.
quote:
"Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there that 'hey, you're not going to take American arms, you are not going to beat our own well-armed persons individual private militia that we have.'"
Please show me any historical source or writing that says Paul Revere was intended to warn the British. The ride by Revere, Dawes and Prescott was not a loud raucous affair of ringing bells. A lot of the people in the area were very loyal to the crown and there were numerous British patrols(as shown by Revere being detained by one).
Please show me in what way was Palin substantially correct?
1) He wasn't warning the British, he was avoiding them.
2) He wasn't ringing any bells or firing warning shot.
Did Revere give warning to the British soldiers that captured him? Yes. He told them they were in for a fight at Lexington.
Lets look back at Palin's defense of her comment.
quote:
Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there that
No. Wrong. Incorrect. Her defense shows she is clueless.

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Theodoric
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Message 182 of 200 (636318)
10-05-2011 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 165 by GDR
10-05-2011 11:41 AM


Canadians to Us for Healthcare? Not many.
What happens a lot is that people with money go down to your country to obtain health care.
This is a myth shown time and time again not to be true.
The latest.
quote:
1) First, they surveyed United States border facilities in Michigan, New York, and Washington. It makes sense that Canadians crossing the border for care would favor sites close by, right? It turns out that about 80% of such facilities saw fewer than one Canadian per month. About 40% saw none in the prior year. And when looking at the reasons for visits, more than 80% were emergencies or urgent visits (ie tourists who had to go to the ER). Only about 19% of those already few visits were for elective purposes.
2) Next, they surveyed America’s Best Hospitals, because if Canadians were going to travel for care, they would be more likely to go to the most well-known and highest quality facilities, right? Only one of the surveyed hospitals saw more than 60 Canadians in one year. And, again, that included both emergencies and elective care.
3) Finally, they examined data from the 18,000 Canadians who participated in the National Population Health Survey. In the previous year, only 90 of those 18,000 Canadians had received care in the United States; only 20 of them had done so electively.
Phantoms In The Snow: Canadians’ Use Of Health Care Services In The United States
Commentaries on this study
HugeDomains.com
Phantoms in the Snow
Other looks at Canadian healthcare system
Mythbusting Canadian Health Care -- Part I | OurFuture.org by People's Action
http://www.ourfuture.org/node/21641
It is seemingly obvious that reality has a liberal bias. This whole meme is propaganda with no basis in reality or facts.
Wait for it...

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Theodoric
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Message 184 of 200 (636331)
10-05-2011 6:19 PM
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10-05-2011 5:51 PM


Re: Canadians to Us for Healthcare? Not many.
As I say are system works pretty well except long waiting lists are a problem.
As they are in numerous places in the US.
What did your friend fly to California to get treatment for?

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Theodoric
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Message 186 of 200 (636335)
10-05-2011 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 185 by GDR
10-05-2011 6:57 PM


Re: Canadians to Us for Healthcare? Not many.
There are a number of US citizens that go to foreign countries for medical services too. This can easily be researched on the net.
So I think it is safe to say the whole Canadians going to US for medical services is just a right wing propaganda scheme.
ABE
People from all over the world go to the Mayo Clinic. That a Canadian goes to Mayo has no bearing on the quality of Medical Care in Canada.
Edited by Theodoric, : Another point
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