What do the victims have to do with it?

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Perch sono stati arrestati?Polizia Italiano: Perch, vi sono un americanoBTW: google has a free translator, but I'd bet Frako speaks Italian.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

Of course. Of the thousands of Americans that live in Italy and the hundreds of thousands (millions?) that visit each year, one of them seems to have been wrongly convicted (along with an Italian). Clearly, Americans in Italy are facing a campaign of sustained persecution. And here we were, thinking all along that it was the gypsies and Africans who had the problem.

See, I can't really understand this attitude. If you were wrongly convicted in the States, would you emigrate once you won your appeal?I imagine Italy means more to her than simply 'the place where I went to jail'.

A lot of American protectionist crap in this thread. Italian police (berettas and all) are among the most diligent and courteous in Europe (and bear no comparison at all with the arrogant American cops!).The problem in Italy isn't the police, it's their judiciary, who seem to think their job is, like Nero, to satisfy the public's thirst for blood. Remember this is the country that has convicted a Formula One team boss for causing the death of a driver in a racing accident, and is even now prosecuting the head of their own National Geophysical Institute for failing to predict an earthquake.If I were Amanda Knox, I would stay very far away from Italy.

Yeah, no doubt. As for anyone else I think they''ll be fine. My mother's been to Italy twice in the last 5 years or so and had a great time, along with the millions of people who visit there each year:Tourism in Italy - WikipediaLet's not ruin Italy for everyone huh? It seems this is an isolated incident and doesn't represent Italy as any different from any other country. We can say the same thing about our judicial system (i.e. Casey Anthony), to name just one.Atleast Italy finally got it right. Are you going to move now because our system botched the Anthony case? What about the OJ case? It seems Italy wrongly convicted an American and then overturned it.It seems here in USA we wrongly let two murderers go free. Any angst towards that?So, when are you leaving and moving to Italy?

Don't sweat it. Here is a list of JUST exonerated death row inmates from the United States. Not including all the other prisoners who WEREN'T on death row that had their convictions over turned:United States1970-19791973.1. David Keaton Florida (Keaton v. State, 273 So.2d 385 (1973)). Convicted 1971.
19742. Samuel A. Poole North Carolina (State v. Poole, 203 S.E.2d 786 (N.C. 1974)). Convicted 1973.
1975.3. Wilbert Lee Florida (Pitts v. State 247 So.2d 53 (Fla. 1971), overturned and released by pardon in 1975). Convicted 1963.
4. Freddie Pitts Florida (Pitts v. State 247 So.2d 53 (Fla. 1971), overturned and released by pardon in 1975). Convicted 1965.
5. James Creamer Georgia (Emmett v. Ricketts, 397 F. Supp 1025 (N.D. Ga. 1975)). Convicted 1973.
6. Christopher Spicer North Carolina (State v. Spicer, 204 SE 2d 641 (1974)). Convicted 1973.
19767. Thomas Gladish New Mexico. Convicted 1974.
8. Richard Greer New Mexico. Convicted 1974.
9. Ronald Keine New Mexico. Convicted 1974.
10. Clarence Smith New Mexico. Convicted 1974.
1977.11. Delbert Tibbs Florida. Convicted 1974.
1978.12. Earl Charles Georgia. Convicted 1975.
13. Jonathan Treadway Arizona. Convicted 1975.
1979.14. Gary Beeman Ohio. Convicted 1976.
1980-1989198015. Jerry Banks.
16. Larry Hicks.
198117. Charles Ray Giddens.
18. Michael Linder.
19. Johnny Ross.
20. Ernest (Shuhaa) Graham.
198221. Annibal Jaramillo.
22. Lawyer Johnson Massachusetts (Commonwealth v. Johnson, 429 N.E.2d 726 (1982)). Convicted 1971.
198523. Larry Fisher.
198624. Anthony Brown.
25. Neil Ferber.
26. Clifford Henry Bowen.
198727. Joseph Green Brown.
28. Perry Cobb.
29. Darby (Williams) Tillis.
30. Vernon McManus.
31. Anthony Ray Peek.
32. Juan Ramos.
33. Robert Wallace.
198834. Richard Neal Jones.
35. Willie Brown.
36. Larry Troy.
198937. Randall Dale Adams Texas (Ex Parte Adams, 768 S.W.2d 281) (Tex. Crim App. 1989). Convicted 1977[3][4].
38. Robert Cox.
39. James Richardson.
On April 8, 2010, former death row inmate Timothy B. Hennis, once exonerated in 1989, was reconvicted of a triple murder, thereby dropping him from the list of those exonerated. [1] Sentenced to death by military court-martial 15 April 2010
1990-1999199040. Clarence Brandley Texas (Ex Parte Brandley, 781 S.W.2d 886 (Tex. Crim App. 1989). Convicted 1981.
41. John C. Skelton.
42. Dale Johnston.
43. Jimmy Lee Mathers.
199144. Gary Nelson.
45. Bradley P. Scott.
46. Charles Smith.
199247. Jay C. Smith Pennsylvania. Convicted 1986.
199348. Kirk Bloodsworth Maryland. Convicted 1984. Exonerated 1993; first prisoner to be exonerated by DNA evidence. Serving life in prison when exonerated, as earlier death sentence was overturned.
49. Federico M. Macias.
50. Walter McMillan.
51. Gregory R. Wilhoit Oklahoma. Convicted 1987. Along with Ron Williamson, Wilhoit later became the subject of John Grisham's 2006 non-fiction book The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town[5].
52. James Robison.
53. Muneer Deeb.
199454. Andrew Golden.
199555. Adolph Munson.
56. Robert Charles Cruz.
57. Rolando Cruz.
58. Alejandro Hernndez.
59. Sabrina Butler.
199660. Joseph Burrows. Joseph Burrows was released from death row after his attorney Kathleen Zellner persuaded the real killer to confess at the post-conviction hearing.
61. Verneal Jimerson.
62. Dennis Williams.
63. Roberto Miranda.
64. Gary Gauger
65. Troy Lee Jones.
66. Carl Lawson.
67. David Wayne Grannis.
199768. Ricardo Aldape Guerra.
69. Benjamin Harris.
70. Robert Hayes.
71. Christopher McCrimmon.
72. Randall Padgett.
It is later revealed, through additional research by Prof. Samuel Gross of the University of Michigan, that though James Bo Cochran was acquitted of murder, he did plead guilty to a robbery charge in an agreement made with prosecutors prior to his release. Therefore, Cochran is no longer on the list of those exonerated from death row. [2]
199873. Robert Lee Miller, Jr.
74. Curtis Kyles.
199975. Shareef Cousin Louisiana (Louisiana v. Cousin, 710 So. 2d 1065 (1998)). Convicted 1996.
76. Anthony Porter Illinois. Convicted 1983.
77. Steven Smith.
78. Ronald Williamson Oklahoma. Convicted 1988. Along with Gregory R. Wilhoit, Williamson later became the inspiration for and subject of John Grisham's 2006 non-fiction book The Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town[5].
79. Ronald Jones.
80. Clarence Dexter, Jr.
81. Warren Douglas Manning.
82. Alfred Rivera.
2000-2009200083. Steve Manning.
84. Eric Clemmons.
85. Joseph Nahume Green.
86. Earl Washington Virginia (pardoned). Convicted 1994 (1984, without life sentence).
87. William Nieves.
88. Frank Lee Smith (died prior to exoneration).
89. Michael Graham.
90. Albert Burrell.
91. Oscar Lee Morris.
200192. Peter Limone.
93. Gary Drinkard.
94. Joachin Jos Martnez.
95. Jeremy Sheets.
96. Charles Fain.
200297. Juan Roberto Melendez-Colon Florida. Convicted 1984.
98. Ray Krone Arizona (State v. Krone, 897 P.2d 621 (Ariz. 1995) (en banc)). Convicted 1992.
99. Thomas Kimbell, Jr.
100. Larry Osborne.
2003101. Aaron Patterson.
102. Madison Hobley.
103. Leroy Orange.
104. Stanley Howard.
105. Rudolph Holton.
106. Lemuel Prion.
107. Wesley Quick.
108. John Thompson.
109. Timothy Howard Ohio. Convicted 1976.
110. Gary Lamar James Ohio. Convicted 1976.
111. Joseph Amrine.
112. Nicholas Yarris Pennsylvania (Pennsylvania v. Yarris, No 690-OF1982, Court of Common Pleas, Delaware County, September 3, 2003. Order vacating conviction). Convicted 1982.
2004113. Alan Gell.
114. Gordon Steidl.
115. Laurence Adams.
116. Dan L. Bright.
117. Ryan Matthews.
118. Ernest Ray Willis.
2005119. Derrick Jamison.
120. Harold Wilson.
2006121. John Ballard.
2007122. Curtis McCarty.
123. Michael McCormick.
124. Jonathon Hoffman.
2008125. Kennedy Brewer Mississippi. Convicted 1995.
126. Glen Edward Chapman North Carolina. Convicted 1995.
127. Levon "Bo" Jones[6] North Carolina. Convicted 1993.
128. Michael Blair Texas.
2009129. Nathson Fields Illinois. Convicted 1986.
130. Paul House Tennessee. Convicted 1986.
131. Daniel Wade Moore Alabama. Convicted 2002.
132. Ronald Kitchen Illinois. Convicted 1988.
133. Herman Lindsey Florida. Convicted 2006.
134. Michael Toney Texas. Convicted 1999. (Toney later died in a car accident on October 3, 2009, just one month and a day after his exoneration.)[7].
135. Yancy Douglas Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.
136. Paris Powell Oklahoma. Convicted 1997.
137. Robert Springsteen Texas. Convicted 2001.
2010-20192010138. Anthony Graves Texas. Convicted 1994.2011139. Cory Maye Mississippi. Convicted 2004List of exonerated death row inmates - WikipediaSo, maybe what you need to learn instead of the Italian phrase for "why am I being arrested" is, "when can I get the next plane to Italy?"Don't be so narrow minded. We all have our faults, America included.Edited by Chuck77, : spelling

Boy, you really are a peice of work. You need research to see that vengeance(revenge) makes one feel better? Wait let me guess, you are of the ilk that subscribes to " the best revenge is to live the best life you can and achive the success you want and blah blah blah".Your arrogance is littered with almost every post you make. For someone who comes down on Christians all the time you sure do act like the HOLIEST one here. It's amazing you can actually live with yourself.So tell us Mr. live life to the fullest, you've never felt the need to get revenge before and experienced how good it would feel but decided not to go thru with it?Your comments are always a good laugh for me, thanks. Keep up the good work, I know it's gotta be hard but if anyone can keep it up it would be you.

Your response says a lot about you.Dr. A's reply could easily be read as:
a) a joke (which the first sentence clearly is)
b) a request for further reading.Instead you read it as some kind of attack on how good revenge feels.
You then spout a bunch of insults. Your arrogance is littered with almost every post you make.
Keep up the good work, I know it's gotta be hard but if anyone can keep it up it would be you.Edited by Panda, : No reason given.Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

So you have no research to back up your statement?We are supposed to accept all aphorisms as proven facts?ABeYou did say there was emerging research. Was that a lie?Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

No he didn't - crashfrog did.

There's a big problem with what you're saying though. "I feel like I want revenge, and I feel like I would feel better if I had it". But that's just your prediction about your future state. It doesn't mean you actually would feel better. You can be wrong about how something would make you feel.So yes, we need research to tell us if our predictions about how we would expect to feel are true. I don't know what research crashfrog was referring to, but here's what I found after a (very brief and superficial) google.The American Psychological Association's section on vengeance discusses a study from 2008 in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology (Vol. 95, No. 6). Two different groups were given a game to play, with one of the participants being a stooge. They all had to select how much money to invest, and then a profit would be shared out equally. If everyone invests equally, everyone gets the same, and everyone's a winner. However, if someone cheats and invests less, they still make just as much money, but piss everyone else off.The stooge in each group convinced everyone to invest equally, but then when the time came to play went back on their word and cheated everyone else - pissing them off. Some groups were given the opportunity to get revenge, some weren't, then at the end they were quizzed on their moods.Understandably, the revenge group said they felt better than if they hadn't been allowed to seek vengeance, whilst the no-revenge group said they would have felt better if they'd been allowed to take revenge.However, if you compare the actual reports of how the two groups felt, the no-revenge group reported feeling better than the revenge group did.I don't know if this experiment is representative, but this one at least suggests that we people are wrong about how they think vengeance will make them feel.That's why we have science, Chuck. You can't just trust your intuition to be correct all the time.

Just for the record, my quip was just a silly attempt at humor. The "why am I being arrested?" question was from an old Robin Williams act he said while playing a Russian character who is giving advise to tourists.I am greatly looking forward to my visits in the Tuscany region. I should think I will probably have a lot less potential problems here than in many other countries. (famous last words)BTW, I am renting a car there (a Panda? I think I am going to be squished inside). Can anybody give me any tips, suggestions, specifically for Italy? Diesel or gas? What's up with a daily road fee (3-4 euros)? I have bought "mandated" car insurance, whatever that covers. I was hoping they could deliver it to my hotel to save me time, but it seems the rental company wants to charge me too much.thanksEdited by dronester, : clarity

Nope, but I'd avoid that particular state... hell, I avoid particular cities.Not going somewhere is a lot easier than leaving somewhere, dontcha think? Its really easy for me to not go to Italy, emigrating would be a bitch. Yeah, that makes sense. I'd pretty much just be holding a grudge.

Correct, but not sure why Chuckie is jumping all over a call for evidence.

I have been. In the People’s Republik of Illinois. I have since emigrated to Virginia. I think she was just trying to be nice and diplomatic till she could get out of that shit-hole. I think he was joking. I don’t think its arrogance, I think that is just how the British are. Yeah that is Theo’s job!Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.