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Message 44 of 218 (605640)
02-21-2011 11:20 AM

Reply to: Message 43 by Blue Jay
02-21-2011 11:07 AM

I'd team up with you.

Since everyone else is already drooling over Modulus, I don't want him anymore.

I'd take Coyote and Cavediver or Wounded King. Ringo would be helpful.

Although, Theo would be a great droid to have to do all the work that we don't want to.

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Message 174 of 218 (607058)
03-01-2011 4:41 PM

Reply to: Message 99 by slevesque
02-22-2011 11:27 AM

But when discussing with a creationist, rarely is it someone other then the creationist who reveals factual falsehoods or logical fallacies from an evolutionist in the discussion. I have never, ever observed a bunch of evolutionists correcting one of their own in a discussion with a creationist.

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Message 209 of 218 (636275)
10-05-2011 10:05 AM

Reply to: Message 196 by Buzsaw
10-01-2011 8:18 PM

Re: The True Creationist Role

All that keeps evolutionist sheeple from thinking for themselves is the fact that the secularistic evolution myth of chaos into order is programmed into their young minds full of mush all the way from pre-school through doctorate degree.

That is so not true buz...

Is there anything at all that could convince you otherwise?

I wet through Catholic school and we never learned "chaos into order" or really anything about evolution, honestly. When I went to college I took a 100 level biology course on human evolution. The professor even prefaced the course with an explanation that he didn't expect anyone to believe these scientific explanations as the truth, but that he did expect us to be able to explain what the scientific explanation was (and that's what we'd be tested on regardless of whether or not we believed any of it). I was a creationist beforehand and still a creationist afterwards, but I did accept the scientific explanation for how humans evolved because of all the evidence presented throughout the course.

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Message 213 of 218 (636407)
10-06-2011 11:08 AM

Reply to: Message 210 by Buzsaw
10-05-2011 11:04 PM

Re: The True Creationist Role

So are you accepting that you were wrong when you wrote this?:

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All that keeps evolutionist sheeple from thinking for themselves is the fact that the secularistic evolution myth of chaos into order is programmed into their young minds full of mush all the way from pre-school through doctorate degree.

You didn't answer my question...

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Is there anything at all that could convince you otherwise?

What would it be?

Catholic school may be different than public school.

Ya think?

but public school science has assumed evolution for a long time.

It has "assumed" geocentrism for longer... so what? Science class is for teaching science (For Science!), so that's what we should expect. Like my biology professor said: you aren't expected to believe it all, but you are expected to be able to explain it.

Even back in the early 1940s when I was in grade school I remember the 5th grade teacher telling us about grunting cavemen.

Go on... they did exist.

Btw, I see the term creationist as incongruent to evolutionist. Creationism implies a creator, rather than disorganized soup to life to organized complexity absent of a creator. No?

If you define them as exclusive then they will be. I see room for a creator in there. You have to have heard of Theistic Evolution.

What creationist dream team would want the likes of you debating evolutionists, CS?

I was gonna pick Chuck, cause he's at least honest... but from his latest posts he seems to have trouble with not addressing the poster, instead of just addressing the argument.
I'd take Phat, again for the honesty.
Maybe jar, if he'd be willing to post with some substance
slevesque seems smart, so he'd work too.

Thanks for the reply, buz.

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Message 214 of 218 (636409)
10-06-2011 11:11 AM

Reply to: Message 211 by Coyote
10-05-2011 11:25 PM

Re: A debater, an apologist, and a scientist walked into a bar...

A debater can take any side of an issue (much like a lawyer), and they don't care about the facts. They'll argue anything.

A scientist is supposed to follow the facts to wherever they lead, and most do just that.

I'll argue anything, but when I'm wrong I'm wrong and am willing to change my position.

Would that everyone were similarly trained, eh?

lol wut?

Seems to be a word or two missing there.

And you didn't pick your team!

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Message 216 of 218 (636416)
10-06-2011 11:30 AM

Reply to: Message 215 by Panda
10-06-2011 11:24 AM

Re: A debater, an apologist, and a scientist walked into a bar...

What does it mean?

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Message 218 of 218 (636420)
10-06-2011 11:47 AM

Reply to: Message 217 by Coyote
10-06-2011 11:39 AM

Re: A debater, an apologist, and a scientist walked into a bar...

The phrase "Would that..." expresses a wish for something.

You could read "would that..." as "I wish that..."

Pretty archaic usage I guess.

Oh, I see...

So you wish that scientists were trainined similiarly to the way that apologist are...

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