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Dr Adequate
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Message 32 of 63 (421250)
09-11-2007 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by mike the wiz
09-11-2007 6:05 PM


Re: New Riddle
Bill owns a motorbike?
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Message 48 of 63 (636748)
10-10-2011 3:11 PM


Here's one I made up.
"I'm thinking of a number between one and ninety-nine," says Bob. "Guess what it is."
"Give me a clue," says Alice. "What's the sum of its digits?" So Bob tells her.
"That's not enough information for me to figure out the answer," says Alice, "Is it greater than fifty?" So Bob tells her.
"Now I know what the number is," replies Alice. And tells him.
"OK," says Bob, "maybe that was too easy. I'm thinking of a different number between one and ninety-nine. Try again."
"What's the sum of its digits?" Alice asks. So Bob tells her.
"Thank you," says Alice, "but that's not enough information to figure out the answer. Is it less than fifty?" So Bob tells her.
"In that case," says Alice, "I know your number." And she tells him what it is.
"OK, says Bob, "let's try again. I'm thinking of a third number between one and ninety-nine, different from the first two."
"Is it greater than fifty?" asks Alice. So Bob tells her.
"And what's the sum of its digits?" asks Alice. So Bob tells her.
"Ah," says Alice, "now I know what your number is". And once more she is perfectly correct.
So what (in the right order please) were Bob's three numbers?

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Message 51 of 63 (636762)
10-10-2011 5:18 PM
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10-10-2011 5:01 PM


Re: My guess
I thought those were the possible answers, but I couldn't figure out how to know the order they were given.
How did you do it?
How do we know it is not 50...99...49?
Suppose the first number was 50. Then Bob's first two answers would have been "the sum of its digits is 5" and "no, it's not greater than 50". But in that case the possible numbers would have been 5, 14, 23, 32, 41 and 50, and so Alice wouldn't have known what the answer was.
The key to solving it is the fact that Bob must be giving Alice enough information to deduce the numbers. The first number can't be 50 because in that case she wouldn't have enough information to deduce that that's what it was.

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Message 60 of 63 (636890)
10-11-2011 8:55 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by bluescat48
10-11-2011 10:12 AM


Re: easy riddle
Although totally impractical, technically, one would never reach the door, by halving the distance, the distance would always be greater than Zero.
Not necessarily. If the time taken to make a move is proportional to the distance moved, then it would take an infinite number of moves but only a finite amount of time.

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Message 63 of 63 (636894)
10-11-2011 9:37 PM
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10-11-2011 9:22 PM


Re: easy riddle
One problem is that infinity is not a number. So an infinite number of moves would still not reach the door.
Whether or not infinity is a number it is clear that an infinite number of moves would in fact reach the door.
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