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Larni
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Message 58 of 72 (636929)
10-12-2011 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Straggler
10-12-2011 8:25 AM


Re: What is so odd about sleep?
If sleep makes one vulnerable then surely it would be evolved out to some extent. This seems to be in line with what you are saying here.
But in many cases one is less vulnerable because of staying still and quiet in times when ones vision is inappropriate for the light conditions.
To give a real world example: when all those people were blinded by that meteoric shower which were the ones who got killed by Triffids, the ones who stayed in thier homes or the ones that flailed around in the street?
Poor vision + predators with better vision = bit part.
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 66 of 72 (636962)
10-12-2011 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by frako
10-12-2011 11:39 AM


Re: What is so odd about sleep?
Back in the day two of my buds where staying over at my place and were sleeping in the same bed: during the night (in his sleep) one of them started sleep strangling the other. It was lucky that the beater was much smaller than the beatee.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Larni
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From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 67 of 72 (636963)
10-12-2011 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Straggler
10-12-2011 1:44 PM


Re: What is so odd about sleep?
Not sure about rehersal but PTSD patients display recurrent, vivid dreams replaying their experiences.
They almost always have not emotionally processed their experiences and so these keep replaying in dreams. Part of cognitive therapy is the support the patient to 'process' these memories and when this is done properly then dreams fade.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


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Message 69 of 72 (636971)
10-12-2011 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by frako
10-12-2011 2:27 PM


Re: What is so odd about sleep?
Similar thing happened to me but I was not caned but hammered. I came home from a rare night out (none of this I recall) and pissed in the cat's tree house (conveniently cock height) and total my lap top screen with my head.
The moral? We can't generalise behaviour when psycho active drugs are involved.
As an aside, my wife went fucking mental

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 72 of 72 (637052)
10-13-2011 5:54 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Straggler
10-12-2011 4:53 PM


Re: What is so odd about sleep?
Good point.
I don't have any data on that. I'll have a look.
Abe: intuitively I would suggest they are the brains inelegant attempt to deal with the experiences. Our brains often try to deal is rubbish ways; that's the basic assumption of cbt.
Edited by Larni, : No reason given.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
Moreover that view is a blatantly anti-relativistic one. I'm rather inclined to think that space being relative to time and time relative to location should make such a naive hankering to pin-point an ultimate origin of anything, an aspiration that is not even wrong.
Well, Larni, let's say I much better know what I don't want to say than how exactly say what I do.

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