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Author Topic:   Evidence for a recent flood
Nuggin
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Message 3 of 404 (637135)
10-13-2011 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Coyote
10-13-2011 10:13 AM


I feel the evidence does not support a global flood, but others obviously disagree. This thread is a place for them to present their evidence.
It's written in a book.
100% of the evidence ever needed.
Anything which contradicts it is a trick by the devil.

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Nuggin
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Message 25 of 404 (637417)
10-15-2011 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Chuck77
10-15-2011 2:35 AM


Re: Flood
I assume it was started for other Creationists to participate in and not so we can just be laughed at and called stupid like ICANT seems to be encountering.
Well, it seems like you have a lot of experience in this area. Do you care to elaborate? Or should I go fetch quotes of you insulting people to demonstrate you hypocrisy?
By the way, if people don't want to get laughed at they should reconsider their positions. Posting arguments which are laughable is just asking for it.

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Nuggin
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Message 32 of 404 (637543)
10-16-2011 12:42 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Portillo
10-16-2011 4:19 AM


If a flood occurred, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, which we call fossils, laid down by water all over the world. And what do we find? Billions of dead things, which we call fossils, laid down by water all over the world.
When floods occur, they kill everything that can not get away. They sweep all the dead things downhill to form giant piles of dead things.
Those dead things are not sorted.
If you flood Upstate New York, you are going to get dead people, dogs, cats, horses, cows, deer, coyotes, raccoons, mice, rats, snakes etc. All the things in the environment.
When we look at fossil beds we do not see a vast collection of "everything". We see certain groups of things clustered together and then other groups of things clustered together in different strata.
If "The Flood" were to occur, we'd expect to find elephants AND mammoths AND mastadons AND rabbits AND T-Rex AND zebras all in one big piles.
We never find that. Ever.
So, unless "The Flood" included magic sorting water, your claim just doesn't.... carry water.

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Nuggin
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Message 35 of 404 (637598)
10-17-2011 3:06 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by ICANT
10-17-2011 1:21 AM


Re: What's expected?
The tide at the Bay of Fundy rises 50 feet and falls 50 feet every 12 hours and 13 minutes. It don't wash everything away nor does it leave a lot of evidence it has been there.
First of all, OF COURSE it leaves evidence.
Second, one small area with one 50 ft tide is NOT the same thing as the ENTIRE earth under a MILE+ of water EVERYWHERE on the surface at the SAME time.

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Nuggin
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Message 55 of 404 (637668)
10-17-2011 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by ICANT
10-17-2011 10:11 AM


Re: What's expected?
What evidence does it leave?
When the tide comes in the rivers run backwards and the water rises. When the tide goes out the flow is reversed.
Very little changes take place from one tide to the other and this has been going on for ages.
"very little changes" is evidence.
NO CHANGES is no evidence.
Additionally, I guarantee you there are bridges, walls, trees, etc which show salt marks all along the height at which the water rises. Salt marks which would still be there if the tide never came in again.
Where does the Bible say the earth was under a MILE+ of water?
Water COVERED the Earth. That means that water was ABOVE whatever the highest mountains were at the time.
You can't have it both ways, Cant. Either the mountains already existed and the water was extremely deep _OR_ the mountains didn't exist and they are the result of the flood and therefore there were MASSIVE changes as a result.
Either/Or. Not both.
According to the text there was one land mass and one body of water at the time of the flood of Noah. The land mass did not look like it does today.
So, magic water brought to us by a Magic Jewish Wizard that magically moves the continents in a way that DOESN'T require the use of any real energy, only magic energy.
Hell, your special pleading has special pleading which in turn has special pleading.
It's a MYTH.

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