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Author Topic:   The C.C.O.I. (Christian Cult Of Ignorance) and Willful Ignorance
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Message 192 of 675 (589287)
11-01-2010 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by Thugpreacha
11-01-2010 12:04 PM


Re: Character of GOD, God, and gods
LOL

Sure. Make up any God you like.

But that has absolutely nothing to do with what GOD actually is.


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Message 194 of 675 (589291)
11-01-2010 12:20 PM
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11-01-2010 12:10 PM


Re: Character of GOD, God, and gods
Who knows? How could someone tell?


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Message 198 of 675 (589422)
11-02-2010 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by iano
11-02-2010 9:23 AM


Re: The Value Of Reading The Bible(s) Today
No, it presupposes nothing and yes, you are free to suppose most anything.

Edited by jar, : take out stray coding


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Message 199 of 675 (589424)
11-02-2010 12:30 PM
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11-02-2010 9:02 AM


Re: Why Atheists?
nwr covers much of it, but there is a far simpler reason. Christianity is a relatively new religion, only been around for 2K years and so the possible number of Christians is small when compared to all the other possibilities.

There will simply be far more atheists, agnostics, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Taoist, Buddhists, animists ... that have lived the life of Christ than Christians.


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Message 201 of 675 (589550)
11-03-2010 10:38 AM
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11-03-2010 9:00 AM


Re: Public or Great Debate?
PD, I never really much cared. It is all up to Phat.


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Message 204 of 675 (637406)
10-15-2011 10:57 AM
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10-15-2011 10:28 AM


Re: Public or Great Debate?
Phat writes:

So jar....in your belief, does God have any influence over what we humans decide to do?

No more influence than any other factor.

AbE:

Also, I went back and looked at Message 22 and I saw no questions, important or unimportant, in that message.

Edited by jar, : see AbE for link to message 22


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Message 206 of 675 (637419)
10-15-2011 12:57 PM
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10-15-2011 12:45 PM


Re: Can God Be Indicted By Humanity?
Why can I not indict God?

The Bible certainly says that I can.

Genesis 3 writes:

22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

Genesis 18 writes:

23And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

24Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?

25That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

We are charged to judge even God's behavior and to point out where God is behaving poorly.

If a God knowing creates a critter that will be damned then that God is evil.


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Message 208 of 675 (637423)
10-15-2011 1:24 PM
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10-15-2011 1:14 PM


Re: Can God Be Indicted By Humanity?
HUH?

What is the topic of the thread?

Now you say I should not point out what the Bible actually says?


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Message 214 of 675 (637512)
10-16-2011 9:00 AM
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10-16-2011 12:43 AM


Re: Poe's law
Do you know what a "Poe" is?

Are the following quotes from the Western Canon?

Genesis 3 writes:

22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

Genesis 18 writes:

23And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

24Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?

25That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

We are charged to judge even God's behavior and to point out where God is behaving poorly.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 218 of 675 (637521)
10-16-2011 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 216 by Admin
10-16-2011 9:53 AM


Re: Moderator On Duty
Hey Admin, can I have my "i" words and "s" words back?

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Message 222 of 675 (637546)
10-16-2011 12:55 PM
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10-16-2011 12:50 PM


Re: The Responsibility to Question
Phat writes:

Has it been your experience in your spiritual beliefs that it appears that what God says (in the books) is unreasonable, illogical, or unrealistic?

HUH?

That sentence makes absolutely no sense.

Try rewording it and perhaps I might be able to offer some answer.

Phat writes:

In your preferred chapter of club Christian, are people actively encouraged to question the Bible?

HUH?

Again, what does that even mean?


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Message 224 of 675 (637551)
10-16-2011 1:16 PM
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10-16-2011 1:09 PM


Re: The Responsibility to Question
Phat writes:

1)Does the Bible suggest that God is unreasonable, illogical, or unrealistic?

Again, there is no such thing as "the God of the Bible". There are many such critters. And it is not a matter of suggestion but rather what the different stories actually say. And yes, many of the gods found in the Bible stories are unreasonable, illogical and unrealistic.

Consider the god found in the Exodus myth or the one found in Joshuah or Kings. Consider the god found in Genesis 2 & 3.

Phat writes:

2) Are Anglicans and Episcopalians encouraged to question the Bible and in what it says or means for believers and people in general today?

HUH?


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Message 228 of 675 (637560)
10-16-2011 1:37 PM
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10-16-2011 1:28 PM


Re: The Responsibility to Question
The God described in the Nicene Creed is the God described in the Nicene Creed.

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Message 230 of 675 (637728)
10-17-2011 5:02 PM
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10-17-2011 2:53 PM


Re: What God expects
So God does not have foreknowledge?

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Message 233 of 675 (637825)
10-18-2011 8:52 AM
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10-18-2011 2:16 AM


Re: What God expects
Again, whether we can know or not is irrelevant.

The question is "Is a God that has complete foreknowledge and is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen and that send some people to hell evil?"


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