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Author Topic:   was there a water layer before life on earth?
Possessor
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10-25-2011 12:44 PM


I'm just wanting to know. i've heard that there was.

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10-25-2011 4:27 PM
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Hi Possessor,
Could you flesh out your topic proposal a bit more? Maybe you could describe a few details concerning what you've heard about the water layer that pre-existed life, and say a little about what you think about the idea.

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10-25-2011 5:29 PM
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sorry. i'v heard that there used to be a layer above the atmosphere.but it doesn't make sence that their would be a water layer in space.and if there was a layer before life on earth were did the oxygen come from to combine with the hydrogen to form the layer.

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10-25-2011 7:21 PM
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Hi Possessor,
The water layer in space that you mention is, I think, a reference to the vapor canopy proposed by creationists to explain where the water for the flood came from. Do I have that right, or are you thinking of something else?

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10-26-2011 10:47 AM
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i was talking about the one that formed after the big bang.
If there was one.

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Message 6 of 8 (638837)
10-26-2011 12:08 PM
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10-26-2011 10:47 AM


Everything that ever happened throughout all time occurred after the Big Bang, so saying that you're talking about the water layer that occurred after the Big Bang doesn't really narrow it down.
Why don't you take a look at this Wikipedia section on the vapor canopy and see if that's what you're thinking of.

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10-26-2011 3:08 PM
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10-26-2011 12:08 PM


ok let me put it this way when in the evolution theory time line did the layer form

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10-26-2011 3:23 PM
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10-26-2011 3:08 PM


The vapor canopy is a creationist idea. Creationists do not accept the theory of evolution, and so they would not place the vapor canopy in any evolutionary time line.
Only some creationists accept the idea of a vapor canopy, and the idea has fallen somewhat out of favor in recent years. The basic proposal is that a vapor canopy existed above the young earth from the week of creation, so that would be around 6000 years ago. The waters from the vapor canopy fell to earth about 4300 years ago to form Noah's flood.
The idea of a water layer doesn't sound at all familiar to me from a scientific or evolutionary standpoint.

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