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Author Topic:   Big Bang Theory Supports a Belief in the Universe Designer or Creator God
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Message 63 of 317 (640131)
11-07-2011 12:52 PM
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11-07-2011 12:46 PM


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Message 277 of 317 (640521)
11-10-2011 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 275 by Taq
11-10-2011 11:20 AM


Re: Reply to Parsomnium
Taq writes:
So where does that leave us?
Shaving with Occam's Razor.

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Message 285 of 317 (640533)
11-10-2011 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 276 by designtheorist
11-10-2011 11:22 AM


Re: Levels of inconceivability
designtheorist writes:
As I said, for the big bang to have a cause other than a being is inconceivable.
To you. It is inconceivable to you.
There can only be two possiblities.
1. The universe in some form exist and always has.
2. The universe was created.
The universe as we know does exist.
However what we do not know is whether or not it was created.
We know the universe's initial state was a super ordered condensed singularity that has inflated to a highly un ordered state as we see it today.
It is unknown, prior to this inflation, how or why the state of the universe changed. All we know is it did some 13.7 billion years ago.
What caused this change is speculation. There need not be a cause. A self existant universe is just as likely as a created one. Except assuming a created on begs the question of who created it and who created the creator?
Personally I like to believe in God. I like to believe there is a objective morality too. I like to believe there is a reason de entre.
(reason for being.) I like to believe these things because they are more comforting to me than the alternative of nihilism.
But I do not expect to be able to provide evidence and convincing arguments beyond that of personal religious beliefs and traditions.

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Message 294 of 317 (640547)
11-10-2011 12:42 PM
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11-10-2011 12:07 PM


Re: Levels of inconceivability
kbertsche writes:
Really?!? Please name even one thing physical thing which has "begun to exist" which has no "cause."
Hello kbertsche, by stating begun you automatically infer a beginning and by inferring a beginning you infer a cause.
No one knows the answer. It is a mystery.

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