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frako
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Message 271 of 301 (636114)
10-04-2011 4:46 AM
Reply to: Message 270 by IamJoseph
10-04-2011 12:21 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
a single alphabetical book prior to 250 BCE.

And it hasto be alphabetical because?????????
why not just go for the first book in modern english language.

Let me try to use your logic

Modern english mas also a monumental feat before they wrote gothi to write fish now its simpler produce me a book older then 600 years that uses modern english you cant so you see im right this says that the english whee advanced at the times and that they are now chosen by the pink unicorn not enven china writes fish like the english do they use silly sighns and are celarly not chosen by the pink unicorn.


Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more


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IamJoseph
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Message 272 of 301 (636115)
10-04-2011 4:52 AM
Reply to: Message 271 by frako
10-04-2011 4:46 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Israel became a nation concurrently with introducing the first alphabetical book. Its big - it changed the world.

How it happened: Image writings, which contained images of beasts on human torsos, became unsuitable for a law book with a forbiddence of image worshipping. Therein Moses was shown how to transform picture writings to abstract writings. This bypassed the normal evolution of writings. The Greeks became the second nation to have alphabetical writings, getting their alpha beta from the Hebrew alef bet. Egypt, Babylon was stiipified!


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frako
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Message 273 of 301 (636117)
10-04-2011 4:58 AM
Reply to: Message 272 by IamJoseph
10-04-2011 4:52 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
and yea nations who use letters like 您好 are just inferrrior and not chosen by the pink unicorn.

Evolution of alphabets

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Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more


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IamJoseph
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Message 274 of 301 (636118)
10-04-2011 5:01 AM
Reply to: Message 273 by frako
10-04-2011 4:58 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
There is wisdom and rightious ones in all nations.

But as far as alphabetical books go.....


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frako
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Message 275 of 301 (636119)
10-04-2011 5:07 AM
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10-04-2011 5:01 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
But as far as alphabetical books go.....

slovenian is the clear way to go cmmon languages that dont use ,,, are clearly not special and not chosen by the pink unicorn


Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more


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frako
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Message 276 of 301 (636120)
10-04-2011 5:25 AM
Reply to: Message 274 by IamJoseph
10-04-2011 5:01 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
ps. where you expecting to see modern hebrew ontop of that picture of the evoultion of the alphabet insted of proto semitic north semitic and south semitic?

Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more


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IamJoseph
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Message 277 of 301 (636232)
10-04-2011 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 276 by frako
10-04-2011 5:25 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Ask yourself why I cannot accept Hebrew as the derivitive of Canaanite! Please show us some Canaanite, Phoenecian or 'alphabeticals' which are older in hard copy? Please show us a thread of such writings for at least 1000 years in comparison to the Hebrew?

PS. I do not accept any excuses here - there are none!


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frako
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Message 278 of 301 (636268)
10-05-2011 5:17 AM
Reply to: Message 277 by IamJoseph
10-04-2011 8:20 PM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Hebrew was originally written in the Canaanite-Phoenician alphabet, but in the 4th century BC the Jews adopted from Aramaic the square alphabet still in use.

Read more: Semitic Languages (and the Phoenician language) http://phoenicia.org/semlang.html#ixzz1ZtgCbvZy

take a look at the letters here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Sinaitic_script

No there is no point i gave up on you a long time ago maby one day when you grow up or hen they figure out how to reverse a lobotomy. So sure hebrew was the first alphabet ever god himself beemed his knowlage in their heads while all other nations had their primative writing styles the hebrews got their writings from the upmost holy pink unicorn.

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Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more


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Pressie
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Message 279 of 301 (636270)
10-05-2011 8:32 AM


Still the solution!
After all this ra-ra-ra, arguments and non-arguments, ideologies and economic solutions, religion and non-religion, etc., I still think the only way to start addressing the problem is; stop breeding as if there is no tomorrow and couple that with putting as much money as possible into the proper education of our precious children.

Then the future really will be bright for humanity. Who knows where the scientific method might lead us to? We really are bright (well, most of us are). We're not the most intelligent species discovered so far in the Universe for nothing. We are clever!

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IamJoseph
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Message 280 of 301 (636271)
10-05-2011 8:34 AM
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10-05-2011 5:17 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
quote:
Hebrew was originally written in the Canaanite-Phoenician alphabet

Where are the Phonecien and Canaanite books?

The aramaic style was used because they were then in exile and the hebrew forbidden.

Get your facts right.


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frako
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Message 281 of 301 (636274)
10-05-2011 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 280 by IamJoseph
10-05-2011 8:34 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Yea sure and arheologists and lignuists made all other alphabets before hebrew up because noone likes jews

Classical, or Biblical Hebrew language is known mainly from the Old Testament, which contains texts in Hebrew from over a period of almost 1,000 years. The earliest known inscription, the Gezer Calendar, has been dated to around 925 BC. Hebrew was originally written in the Canaanite-Phoenician alphabet, but in the 4th century BC the Jews adopted from Aramaic the square alphabet still in use. By the 3rd century BC, Hebrew was spoken only in Judaea, and even there in a modified form known as Mishnaic. During the Babylonian Captivities of the Hebrews, Aramaic became their lingua franca. Targum or translation of scriptures into Aramaic was made to accommodate the switch from Hebrew to Aramaic. During the time of Christ, Aramaic was still the lingua franca of the Hebrews. As a language, Hebrew died out around AD 200, and was no longer spoken anywhere. Hebrew was revived as a spoken language to provide a lingua franca for Jews who moved to Palestine in the late 19th century.

Read more: Semitic Languages (and the Phoenician language) http://phoenicia.org/semlang.html#ixzz1Zurjd9w3

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Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand

Jesus was a dead jew on a stick nothing more


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Butterflytyrant
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Message 282 of 301 (640426)
11-09-2011 12:05 PM


IamJoseph,

You have continually stated that the Hebrew Bible states that people should go forth and multiply and this means go forth and colonise other planets.

But that is not what the Old Testament says.

quote:
Genesis 1 Verse 28
God blessed them, and God said to them, Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.

It specifically says 'the Earth'. In some sections it may not say the Earth, but nowhere is it mentioned to colonise space or other planets.

Given this fact, how do you validate your apocalyptic, inhumane, insane, impossible scheme to starve everyone into space?


I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong

Butterfly, AKA, mallethead - Dawn Bertot

"Superstitions and nonsense from the past should not prevent us from making progress. If we hold ourselves back, we admit that our fears are more powerful than our abilities." Hunters of Dune Herbert & Anderson


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IamJoseph
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Message 283 of 301 (640579)
11-10-2011 7:05 PM
Reply to: Message 282 by Butterflytyrant
11-09-2011 12:05 PM


quote:
Genesis 1 Verse 28
God blessed them, and God said to them, Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it;

The above is not necessarilly attached to this:

quote:

and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.


Obviously input is required here today - there was no notion of other worlds at that time, but these cannot be excluded today. 'Earth' can refer to physicality and material things, which means humans have to subdue all physicality: one day humans will be able to move Jupiter 5% to the left. Otherwise humanity cannot survive. This says the only saving path for humanity, as well as all other life forms, rests in the directive given in Genesis, and that the notion of forever sustaining life only on this planet via climate protection premises advocated today - is a guaranteed reciepe for disaster - to the extent the reverse must be strived for.

What good is a clean planet if we cannot turn our noses without bumbing into someone else? What good is a clean planet based on the elimination of humanity and other life forms? This is the scenario anticipated and advocated against in Genesis.


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IamJoseph
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Message 284 of 301 (640580)
11-10-2011 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by frako
10-05-2011 10:04 AM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
quote:
Where are the Phonecien and Canaanite books?

Do you also understand that the alphabet 'V' was introduced in the Hebrew - which is another reason aligning with an independence from other languages and writings? Why is Abraham originally spelt with a V [Avraham] and all other writings spelt with a 'B' [Abraham; Ibrahim]? Why is there a distinct difference of the Hebrew monotheistic belief, and all other ancient belief systems?


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frako
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Message 285 of 301 (640599)
11-10-2011 9:30 PM
Reply to: Message 284 by IamJoseph
11-10-2011 7:11 PM


Re: ITS CALLED BEING WRONG (again)
Why is there a distinct difference of the Hebrew monotheistic belief, and all other ancient belief systems?

And what difference would that be??


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