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Author Topic:   Does the speed of light allow new earth creationism
NoNukes
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Message 14 of 35 (640733)
11-12-2011 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by IDontKnow
11-11-2011 8:09 PM


What brand of YEC are you asking about
YECs don't necessarily believe that the universe is less than 10,000 years old. Some postulate a young earth in an old universe. In that case, the size of the universe and a constant speed of light work out just fine.

As Dr. A points out, those who think the universe is just a few days older than the earth seldom believe that physicists are right about much of anything. I've heard more than one pastor claim that the Bible contains all of the science anyone needs to know.


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NoNukes
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Message 18 of 35 (640767)
11-12-2011 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by kbertsche
11-12-2011 1:22 PM


The quote below is from the article Jason Lisle's article "Anisotropic Synchrony Convention—A Solution to the Distant Starlight Problem"

http://www.answersingenesis.org/...opic-synchrony-convention

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Genesis itself may suggest a simple answer to distant starlight. In Genesis 1:14–18 God tells us that the stars were created on the fourth day to give light upon the earth. This text also seems to strongly suggest that the stars fulfilled their purpose immediately (“and it was so”). Therefore, it would seem that the light emitted by the stars reached earth instantaneously, or nearly so. This suggests a synchrony convention: a procedure for synchronizing clocks separated by a distance.

Imaginative is not the word I'd have used to describe this reasoning.


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Message 25 of 35 (654977)
03-06-2012 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by foreveryoung
03-05-2012 1:18 AM


Re: The Science Of The Matter.
Yes, but among the scientist who study a discipline which informs them about how species arose, how the solar system came to be, or how the earth has evolved, the number of Creationists is quite a small percentage.

Of course I'm using the term Creationists in the narrow sense to apply only to those young earth creationists and old earth creationists who claim that Genesis is a literal account of how, and in what order, were created life, man, the sun, moon, and stars.


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NoNukes
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Message 30 of 35 (659498)
04-16-2012 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by OpticalIllusions
04-16-2012 8:26 AM


Re: The Science Of The Matter.
Aren't all humans basically scientists trying to understand the nature of the universe?

No. It is not the case that all humans are science. Was this supposed to be a trick question?

What about Newton?

Newton of course was a scientist, and an alchemist, and his investigation of light led him to stick sharp objects behind his eyes. What is your point?

If there are no creationist scientists, then who created scientists?

Yikes. What's the logic here?


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison


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NoNukes
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Message 35 of 35 (659607)
04-17-2012 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Dr Adequate
04-16-2012 2:30 PM


Re: Poe, perhaps.
No creationist is quite that stupid in quite that way.

I'm fairly certain that a search of this very forum would uncover evidence to the contrary. Perhaps the forum is being trolled, but the POE hypothesis is that a true troll is essentially indistinguishable from an extremely ardent fundamentalist.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison


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