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Author Topic:   Where did the matter and energy come from?
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Message 313 of 357 (641220)
11-18-2011 2:49 AM
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01-12-2010 10:20 AM


Plausible explanation
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Philosophical Theology regarding "In The Beginning" logic
You cant have something come from nothing. If at one time, something was highly compressed and static, it is basically illogical to assume that it would change without prompting.
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Message 325 of 357 (641473)
11-19-2011 4:31 PM
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11-18-2011 8:28 AM


Re: Plausible explanation
all I am basically asking is how nothing, by definition, can ever become something. I am aware that in the case of the universe, there has always been something. Even before time started, there had to be something to "work with"....right?

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Message 332 of 357 (641610)
11-20-2011 5:40 PM
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11-19-2011 6:24 PM


Re: Plausible explanation
Forgive my ignorance. I always thought that the singularity was essentially everything in one place at one time. I don't really understand time during or "before" the singularity.

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Message 335 of 357 (641674)
11-21-2011 1:57 PM
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11-21-2011 12:52 PM


Re: Plausible explanation
Rahvin writes:
You can choose any two coordinates in the entire timeline, it doesn't matter which two, and the spacial component of the Universe will be larger at the coordinate where entropy is greater. You can pick the first two milliseconds, or the first two billion years, or the first two trillionths of a nanosecond, and you'll still see that the Universe is larger at the later coordinate.
Still boggles. Granted the universe is larger the first two nanoseconds. But what about the very first googlesecond?
How small is "it" initially?
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Message 342 of 357 (649087)
01-20-2012 12:04 PM
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12-16-2011 7:12 PM


Where did IT come from?
jar writes:
The matter and energy that makes up this universe didn't exist.
I thought that matter could neither be created nor destroyed. (OOPS...that disproves a Creator )

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