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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sorry but you still have not given us any evidence.
You are still just posting word salad and claiming it has any meaning. Where is Mt Ararat? When was this supposed flood? Where was it? What was the duration" What was the extent? Where are the sites where evidence of this alleged flood can be found? What is the evidence of this asserted flood?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined:
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quote: The location of Mount Ararat is given as in the region of numerous then existing nations like Egypt and Babylon [the text in the Noah story]; the first King is also given [Nimrod]; Mount Ararat is mentioned for the first time [not lifted from any other source]. It is precise enough for its period; Tasmania is not listed, nor are nations which emerged soon after the flood period [such as Moab and Medianite]. The duration of the flood is also given in the text. Its evidence is archeologically acceptable factors as the accurate listing of contemporary factors and cross-reference writings of other contemporary nations - proof this was not a global flood because those nations would not still be around to tell it. there is no credibility in ignoring such factors.
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sorry but that is so imprecise a location as to be meaningless.
Where is Mt Ararat? When was this supposed flood? Where was it? What was the duration" What was the extent? Where are the sites where evidence of this alleged flood can be found? What is the evidence of this asserted flood?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined:
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Does everyone understand that we have no history per se before such writings and its given datings of human history? Does a Proffessor know of a NAME older than that of Adam? Are these one a trillion co-incidences or a depiction of real human history? Is the premise, we had no writings before this period, a credible response? It begs the question, why did older and mightier nations not have writings older than precisely and fastediously before 6000? - yet an insignificant late comer in the ancient world have say so as a manifest and irrefutable fact? Is a NAME not recallable without writings? Were there no kings, cities, nations, wars, monuments in lands outside this region or anywhere else on the planet?
Genesis says the earth is billions of years old, but that human speech is 6000 years. What evidences do we have to deny or reject this astonishing proposal? In fact I know of no proof which overturns it - does anyone?
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined:
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I previous posted the references and verse details that Mount Ararat, mentioned for the first time in its correct geographical location, has nations such as Egypt, Nenveh and Babylon in the same Noah story. This gives the location. The dates are also given and accountable from the diarised Hebrew calendar which spans some 3000 years; dod and dob's of Noah are also given.
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And that does not tell us shit about where Mt Ararat is.
Where is Mt Ararat? When was this supposed flood? Where was it? What was the duration" What was the extent? Where are the sites where evidence of this alleged flood can be found? What is the evidence of this asserted flood?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2105 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Does everyone understand that we have no history per se before such writings and its given datings of human history? We may not have written history, but we have archaeology and a lot of other -ologies. And we can date human history far more accurately than tribal myths.
Does a Proffessor know of a NAME older than that of Adam? Adam is a tribal myth.
Are these one a trillion co-incidences or a depiction of real human history? They are myths.
Is the premise, we had no writings before this period, a credible response? No. There were a variety of picture writings that we have been unable to decipher.
It begs the question, why did older and mightier nations not have writings older than precisely and fastediously before 6000? - yet an insignificant late comer in the ancient world have say so as a manifest and irrefutable fact? Is a NAME not recallable without writings? Were there no kings, cities, nations, wars, monuments in lands outside this region or anywhere else on the planet? Nonsense. Just word salad nonsense.
Genesis says the earth is billions of years old, but that human speech is 6000 years. What evidences do we have to deny or reject this astonishing proposal? In fact I know of no proof which overturns it - does anyone? Genesis is wrong (again). Human speech can be tracked through the shape and position of a small bone in the throat. The origin of that bone can be traced back to about 530,000 years ago. Reference: Martnez I, Arsuaga JL, Quam R, Carretero JM, Gracia A, Rodrguez L, Human hyoid bones from the middle Pleistocene site of the Sima de los Huesos (Sierra de Atapuerca, Spain), Journal of Human Evolution, 2008, vol. 54, no. 1, pp. 118-124. PMID: 17804038 You are long on tribal myth and speculation, and short on scientific evidence. Try again?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined:
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quote: Once more with feelings: Message 165:
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And that does not tell us shit about where Mt Ararat is.
Where is Mt Ararat? When was this supposed flood? Where was it? What was the duration? What was the extent? Where are the sites where evidence of this alleged flood can be found? What is the evidence of this asserted flood? The issue is that so far you have not answered any of the questions asked. Edited by jar, : fix punctuationAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member
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Does everyone understand that we have no history per se before such writings and its given datings of human history? Does a Proffessor know of a NAME older than that of Adam? Yeah. Sumerian cuneiform predates the books of Moses. Secondly, if I write a novel and claim the characters lived 10,000 years ago, does that necessarily indicate its accuracy? If not, then you point is moot.
Genesis says the earth is billions of years old, but that human speech is 6000 years. It says nothing of the sort. Please substantiate your assertion if you feel otherwise."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: Pls take back your 'may not' and put, Genesis is amazingly 100% correct!
quote: Pls retract and put instead, with all the ologies we still do not have a name older than Adam.
quote: Pls retract: Adam is the oldest recorded tribal, mythical name.
quote: Pls add: a myth which mysteriously aligns with the facts.
quote: The picture writings are not older than 6000; those which made such claims have been found to be bogus. Nor do we have cities, nations, wars, kings, pyramids, etc, etc. A lie by omission is - surprise, surprise - a lie. It begs the question, why did older and mightier nations not have writings older than precisely and fastediously before 6000? - yet an insignificant late comer in the ancient world have say so as a manifest and irrefutable fact? Is a NAME not recallable without writings? Were there no kings, cities, nations, wars, monuments in lands outside this region or anywhere else on the planet? Nonsense. Just word salad nonsense. Genesis says the earth is billions of years old, but that human speech is 6000 years. What evidences do we have to deny or reject this astonishing proposal? In fact I know of no proof which overturns it - does anyone? Genesis is wrong (again). Human speech can be tracked through the shape and position of a small bone in the throat. The origin of that bone can be traced back to about 530,000 years ago. Reference: Martnez I, Arsuaga JL, Quam R, Carretero JM, Gracia A, Rodrguez L, Human hyoid bones from the middle Pleistocene site of the Sima de los Huesos (Sierra de Atapuerca, Spain), Journal of Human Evolution, 2008, vol. 54, no. 1, pp. 118-124. PMID: 17804038 You are long on tribal myth and speculation, and short on scientific evidence. Try again?
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: If you alsolist factors which are historically accurate to the period, and not seen previously [as with Mount Ararat and the listing of numerous nations] yes it means it is accurate. Yes there were older writings - but none which is older than 6000; and alphabetical books older than the Hebrew.
quote: That Adam is the oldest speech endowened human/life form: The Hebrew calendar, 5772 years, the oldest active one we have. That the universe and the earth are billions of years old, and the first such claim made: the seperation actions listed in Genesis, prior to the advent of life forms. Namely, the seperation of light from darkness; day from night; water from land. These account for billions and millions of years.
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IamJoseph Member (Idle past 3668 days) Posts: 2822 Joined: |
quote: I see it as the first historical/geographical description humanity possesses, akin to a modern day aerial photography time-line. And you do not have a similar writings anywhere. Produce one with such historical/geographical listings?!
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2105 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
That Adam is the oldest speech endowened human/life form... Adam is a tribal myth. And you failed to address the evidence I posted above showing the development of bony structures associated with speech back some 530,000 years. Your tribal myths are just plain wrong, but you are unable to admit any errors. You deny or misrepresent any evidence that's inconvenient to you and your myth cycle. That's why you are doing apologetics, not science.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And that does not tell us shit about where Mt Ararat is.
Where is Mt Ararat? When was this supposed flood? Where was it? What was the duration? What was the extent? Where are the sites where evidence of this alleged flood can be found? What is the evidence of this asserted flood? The issue is that so far you have not answered any of the questions asked. Are the questions too hard for you to understand?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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