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The Christian take on the Hebrew bible is very genuine and sincere. But that does not mean it is also correct. The Hebrew text is very clear the earth is not 6000 years old, Isaac when offered for sacrifce was not a child but over 30 years old, and the flood is a regional one. Consider it when you wax poetic.

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First you say there's no evidence and none should be expected.

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Who says contemporary land marks introduced for the first time, with cross nation reporting are not evidence? Why not check how archeologists decide?

You have been asked for a precise location.Not in the past.In the present.You. A name of a landmark, a global position, meters, latitude-longitude, etc. etc.Where is it?That would be data.

Hello everyone,My apologies, I apparently checked the wrong box when modifying IamJoseph's permissions earlier today. I have fixed this and IamJoseph will no longer be able to post in the science forums.

Well, for one, archaeologists give us locations that anyone could find and actually go there to look at the evidence.

*looks for a map location*
*sees only more word salad*
*concludes that IamJ definitely doesn't know where Mount Ararat is*

Hi jar, But they still exist today all over the world.My favorite is the one off the coast of Florida at Jacksonville. It has been know to exist for quite some time now. Here is an article from the New York Times.

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FRESH-WATER SPRING IN THE OCEAN.
From the Jacksonville (Fla.) Times-Union.
How many people coming to Florida know
Anythin about the great fresh=water spring in
The Atlantic Ocean? People run all about the
State in search of something new and pass by
Things as old as the sun and yet as new to the
Hundreds of thousands of visitors to Florida as
Was "darkest Africa" to Stanley three years ago.
This great natural wonder covers an area of about
Two acres. Is in the Atlantic Ocean about two
Miles (east) from the shore and about ten miles
From St. Augustine, (south) The spring is defined
By the silver-gleaming white caps trying to force
Themselves over the powerful boiling spring.

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The New York Times
Published: February 21, 1892
Copyright The New York Times

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There are ocean springs in the Hawaii Islands that produced drinking water for the natives many years ago.There is a huge body of water under Asia Source
SourceDepending on who you read behind there is enough water in the ocean floor and mantel to fill the oceans 5 to 10 times.Usually the statement is that you can't get that water out of the mantel to flood the Earth.Who says the water was in the mantel before the flood?In what I read the water gets in the mantel by subduction. That being the case it would have gotten there when the Earth was divided after the flood. Yes, rain water that falls on hills runs down hill.What was the rate of rain fall during the 40 days of flooding?There can only be x amount of water in the atmosphere and if the earth was covered with cloud cover for 40 days there would not be much evaporation to replace the moisture that fell to Earth. So there would be a big problem with the rain water doing much damage running down hill. You have to take into consideration at least 70% of the rain would fall in the water.The water rising from the fountains of the deep would rise like the water at the Bay of Fundy rises 55 feet in 6 hours.That water goes uphill not downhill. What do you base that assertion on? I think I have said there would be no evience of a global flood as the Earth was divided after the flood.As far as a local flood there are all kinds of fossils that are in and on mountains which means that land mass was under water at one time.God Bless,

Have you no shame?Really, both of those claims have been falsified so many times, yet you trot them out here again as if they were real.What you are telling us is that you are impervious to evidence and you'll believe what you want no matter how many times it is debunked.If that is the case, why are you even here on a debate site? Are you here witnessing or something? If so, what benefit do you think you get from posting claims that have been shown to be false so many times?

Too funny.Stop and think.Fountains of the Deep?Sure there are springs and we actually understand why there are springs.But that is totally irrelevant.There is no evidence of your alleged "Fountains of the Deep".Gravity is still a constant, and water runs downhill.Water deposited by rainfall OR the imaginary Fountains of the Deep on existing seas will still get spread out uniformly.Water that falls on land from rainfall OR the imaginary Fountains of the Deep will still run downhill.The area is NOT a single flat piece of land.You have still not presented any evidence for either a worldwide or regional flood.It really is that simple.

And this spring is ejectig water into the stratosphere?I missed that part.And the source of the fresh(?) water is where?And this is your 'fountain of the deep'?Hey, there's a spring in my back yard. Can I call it a 'fountain of the deep' also? Maybe I could bring in a little extra cash by charging admission...

He also seems to forget that springs work because water runs downhill.

Hi edge, Where did you get such a stupid idea from? I missed it too. It doesn't happen unless the water is heated, so no it does not spout into the air it runs off as a river and flows into Lake Okeechobee, then through dug canals to Miami to supply drinking water.Now Old Faithful in Wyoming is a different story. The water that comes out of it comes from around 14,000 feet deep as it passes over magna and is heated and goes up to 180 feet in the air.Hydrothermal vents are found at 7,000 feet below sea level in the ocean, and old faithful in Wyoming is over 7,000 feet above sea level. The Floridan aquifer. Nope.

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Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

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The fountain's of the deep would have been under the deep that is spoken of in Genesis 1:2. That would have been somewhere under the water.There are a lot of vents, which a freshwater spring is, under the water around the world. They are flowing a small stream today but if they were opened up, how much water could they release into the ocean?Remember the text says the fountain's of the deep were opened up.But you need to forget what YEC"S have said when you are talking to me. I ain't one. I don't believe all the layers of strata were laid down in the flood. So I don't believe in a catastrophe event taking place during the flood.That is the reason I continually ask the question, what would you expect to find if the flood of Noah actually took place?Especially since the Earth was divided after the flood of Noah.God Bless,

Hi jar, I guess you are going to tell me that the water that flows out of Old Faithful in Yellowstone Park which is over 7,000 feet above sea level and is heated by the magna is flowing downhill.I guess you would also tell me that all the water being released from the hydrothermal vents around the world is flowing downhill also.God Bless,

Perhaps you could read and reply to my posts on this subject. I particularly recommend the one where I tell you how to spell "mantle".

I'd like to again call your attention to something mentioned earlier, the thread's title, more specifically, the first word of the thread's title: evidence.This thread isn't about how ICANT thinks it all happened. It's about evidence for how it all happened.Actual events, such as "fountains of the deep" releasing water at a rate sufficient to flood the world in a mere 40 days, leave behind evidence, and evidence is what this thread is about. So if you have evidence for any of your ideas, this is the thread. If all you have is ideas, not so much.--Percy