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Shield
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Message 7 of 560 (644212)
12-16-2011 7:32 AM


Hitch dead, Jim.

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Message 20 of 560 (644252)
12-16-2011 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Buzsaw
12-16-2011 12:14 PM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
Yeah, he is such a jerk!
"I sometimes wish I were suffering in a good cause, or risking my life for the good of others, instead of just being a gravely endangered patient."
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Message 36 of 560 (644286)
12-16-2011 9:50 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Buzsaw
12-16-2011 6:29 PM


Re: Buzsaw: Hitch No Jerk
Sadly, you are a deluded lost soul who will be held responsible in the afterlife jugement as some of you extremists will be for blasphemy against his judge, the majesty of the Universe and for deceiving so many. You will die and you will not notice, 'cause you will be dead. Thus sayeth Lrr, RULER OF THE PLANET OMICRON PERSEI 8!
GDR already made the following point, much better than i could ever do, but here i go anyways:
1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

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Shield
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Message 105 of 560 (644638)
12-19-2011 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Artemis Entreri
12-19-2011 3:10 PM


Re: non-issue
Ad Hominem arguments attack the source of an argument - not anything within the argument itself.
So Kim argues that "[C] El Taquito is the best Mexican restaurant in town. [P] They make their own tortillas, [P] they only use the freshest ingredients, and [P] everything I've had there has been delicious."
Art replies: "Kim is Japanese, and so we can ignore his opinion on Mexican food."
Art's response, obviously, does not address any of the reasons Kim has offered for his claim that El Taquito is the best Mexican restaurant in town - Art has only attacked Kim as the source of the claim.
From Page not found - Drury University
You really need to learn what an Ad Hominem argument is. If A tells B that the sun revolves around earth, and B answers, NO, because youre a stupid cunt!, that would be an Ad hominem argument.
If A tells B that the sun revolves around earth, and B answers, NO, you stupid cunt, and presents the evidence for his argument, its NOT an Ad Hominem argument.
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Edited by rbp, : Typo fix

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Shield
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Message 114 of 560 (644769)
12-20-2011 2:28 PM


Hitchens is absolutely right..
You should read more on Mother Theresa if you really think she is such a saint.
"wiki writes:
Chatterjee writes that while she was alive Mother Teresa and her official biographers refused to collaborate with his own investigations and that she failed to defend herself against critical coverage in the Western press. He gives as examples a report in The Guardian in Britain whose "stringent (and quite detailed) attack on conditions in her orphanages ... [include] charges of gross neglect and physical and emotional abuse",[77] and another documentary Mother Teresa: Time for Change? broadcast in several European countries.[58]
The German magazine Stern published a critical article on the first anniversary of Mother Teresa's death. This concerned allegations regarding financial matters and the spending of donations. The medical press has also published criticism of her, arising from very different outlooks and priorities on patients' needs.[68] Other critics include Tariq Ali of the New Left Review and the Irish investigative journalist Donal MacIntyre.[76]
She has also been criticized for her view on suffering. She felt that suffering would bring people closer to Jesus.[78] Sanal Edamaruku, President of Rationalist International, criticised the failure to give painkillers, writing that in her Homes for the Dying, one could "hear the screams of people having maggots tweezered from their open wounds without pain relief. On principle, strong painkillers are even in hard cases not given. According to Mother Teresa's philosophy, it is 'the most beautiful gift for a person that he can participate in the sufferings of Christ'."[79]
The quality of care offered to terminally ill patients in the Homes for the Dying has been criticised in the medical press. The Lancet and the British Medical Journal reported the reuse of hypodermic needles, poor living conditions, including the use of cold baths for all patients, and an approach to illness and suffering that precluded the use of many elements of modern medical care, such as systematic diagnosis.[68] Dr. Robin Fox, editor of The Lancet, described the medical care as "haphazard", as volunteers without medical knowledge had to take decisions about patient care, because of the lack of doctors. He observed that her order did not distinguish between curable and incurable patients, so that people who could otherwise survive would be at risk of dying from infections and lack of treatment. Dr. Fox makes it a point to contrast hospice, on the one hand, with what he calls "Mother Teresa's Care for the Dying" on the other hand; noting that, while hospice emphasizes minimizing suffering with professional medical care and attention to expressed needs and wishes of the patient, her approach does not.[80]
Colette Livermore, a former Missionary of Charity, describes her reasons for leaving the order in her book Hope Endures: Leaving Mother Teresa, Losing Faith, and Searching for Meaning. Livermore found what she called Mother Teresa's "theology of suffering" to be flawed, despite being a good and courageous person. Though Mother Teresa instructed her followers on the importance of spreading the Gospel through actions rather than theological lessons, Livermore could not reconcile this with some of the practices of the organization. Examples she gives include unnecessarily refusing to help the needy when they approached the nuns at the wrong time according to the prescribed schedule, discouraging nuns from seeking medical training to deal with the illnesses they encountered (with the justification that God empowers the weak and ignorant), and imposition of "unjust" punishments, such as being transferred away from friends. Livermore says that the Missionaries of Charity "infantilized" its nuns by prohibiting the reading of secular books and newspapers, and emphasizing obedience over independent thinking and problem-solving.[81]
Christopher Hitchens and the German magazine Stern have said Mother Teresa did not focus donated money on alleviating poverty or improving the conditions of her hospices, but on opening new convents and increasing missionary work.[82] Mother Teresa accepted donations from the autocratic and corrupt Duvalier family in Haiti and openly praised them. She also accepted 1.4 million dollars from Charles Keating, involved in the fraud and corruption scheme known as the Keating Five scandal and supported him before and after his arrest. The Deputy District Attorney for Los Angeles, Paul Turley, wrote to Mother Teresa asking her to return the donated money to the people Keating had stolen from, one of whom was "a poor carpenter". The donated money was not accounted for, and Turley did not receive a reply.[83]
Arent you always on about how you dont trust the media etc? Apparently you believe the lie that mother theresa was a good person. She wasent.
the guy was a troll. I am glad he is dead, fuck him.
Ezekiel 18:23
Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
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