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jar
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Message 9 of 560 (644225)
12-16-2011 8:48 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Portillo
12-16-2011 6:04 AM


If there is an afterlife Hitch is far more likely to get to heaven than most Christians.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 19 of 560 (644250)
12-16-2011 12:48 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Buzsaw
12-16-2011 12:14 PM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
If there is an afterlife Hitch will be welcomed home.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 28 of 560 (644268)
12-16-2011 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Buzsaw
12-16-2011 6:15 PM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
There is nothing professed Buz, I am a Christian and catholic in the sense of universal, though not Roman Catholic (thanks Hank), and yes, I imagine Hitch will most certainly be Welcomed Home.
You need to stop alleging falsehoods Buz. Try to be at least a third the follower of Christ Hitch was. I know it's a lofty goal for you but I believe with God's help you might get there; I know I'll pray for you.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 63 of 560 (644361)
12-17-2011 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Dawn Bertot
12-16-2011 11:37 PM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
What mocks God and Blasphemes the Holy Spirit is the Christian Cult of Ignorance.
Hitch never mocked GOD or Blasphemed the Holy Spirit, he mocked the little bling-bling pimp daddy god marketed by many chapters of Club Christian.
Hitch was honest and bright and while I often disagreed with him, one area I did not disagree with Hitch was that there is almost nothing of Jesus message in the Christian Cult of Ignorance.
I cannot imagine GOD not welcoming Hitch home, and laying on one hell of a pachanga when he gets there.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 67 of 560 (644373)
12-17-2011 10:13 AM
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12-17-2011 10:05 AM


Re: Speaking Ill of the Dead
They could be said to be "overly polemic".

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Message 73 of 560 (644395)
12-17-2011 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by Larni
12-17-2011 1:19 PM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
And so another very likely digression, but if so I'll just claim to be old and use that as an excuse.
The New Testament is filled with examples of Jesus interacting with non-believers and in the stories there is a pattern; in the stories the pattern is that when faced with someone who is exhibiting unbelief Jesus provides sufficient evidence to change their mind. Jesus seems to understand human nature and never threatens or condemns those who do not believe simply based on their doubts; Jesus seems to understand that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Whether it is Thomas requiring additional concrete evidence of Jesus identity, the many failings and loss of belief of Peter, the total disbelief and actual denial of Saul or even the act of betrayal of Judas, Jesus never condemns the individual.
The important part of all that for me is that in the stories at least, God through Jesus provides the characters the evidence they need. Remember that these are all daily companions (with the exception of Saul) and so have been given direct evidence over a period of years.
No one living today has ever received such intimate and ongoing evidence as those people did.
It is unreasonable, irrational and illogical for any of us living today to hold a believe in Jesus' divinity.
It is equally unreasonable, irrational and illogical for God to expect any such belief.
BUT... as pointed out above, the stories tell us that God through Jesus will provide sufficient evidence to convince the skeptic before any condemnation.
If there is a GOD, if the stories of Jesus have any real meaning, then before any condemnation for non-belief I expect Hitch would be provided with sufficient evidence to be convincing of at least Jesus' and GOD's existence.
I am not saying that Hitch would be expected to worship such a critter, only that Hitch as a consistently honest person if faced with sufficient evidence of GOD's and Jesus' existence would acknowledge and conclude they do exist.
If there is a GOD that created all that is, seen and unseen, then I also cannot imagine such a critter being some little bling-bling pimp daddy that gets all bent outta shape if Hitch disses Her when they do meet.
There are very few areas outside of science where I agreed with Hitchens, but I never doubted that his conclusions were based on whatever the evidence supported, regardless of whether or not the evidence supported his initial position.
I hope that I get to sit down with him over some good not too cold Scottish ales in the future.

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Message 80 of 560 (644415)
12-17-2011 6:42 PM
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12-17-2011 6:35 PM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
Jesus threw stones at religion.
Throwing stones at religion is a very good thing.

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Message 88 of 560 (644432)
12-17-2011 9:59 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Portillo
12-17-2011 9:52 PM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
I'm sorry but that is nonsense. No regime has every been more effective at genocide than Christianity.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 101 of 560 (644489)
12-18-2011 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by Dawn Bertot
12-18-2011 8:34 AM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
No, they ridicule the god you try to market.
Jesus often did the same thing.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 122 of 560 (644790)
12-20-2011 5:19 PM
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12-20-2011 5:13 PM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
History Buz, history,

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Message 126 of 560 (644806)
12-20-2011 8:24 PM


Johnny Walker Blah
My guess is that Christopher Hitchens is getting a really big surprise; that Jesus has much better Scotch than Johnny Walker Black Label. They are likely kicking it back and swapping yarns.

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Message 135 of 560 (644882)
12-21-2011 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by New Cat's Eye
12-21-2011 11:17 AM


Hitch was a professional jerk.
Interestingly, his off stage persona seems quite different.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 138 of 560 (644888)
12-21-2011 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by New Cat's Eye
12-21-2011 11:44 AM


Sure, look at some of the material available from Larry Taunton.
Larry Taunton remembers his friend

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Message 156 of 560 (645478)
12-27-2011 10:30 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by Dawn Bertot
12-27-2011 2:02 AM


Re: Afterlife Surprises
Perhaps you can provide some example of someone who believes in the "Law of the Fittest" (whatever that is) other than a member of the CCoI?
Maybe you can give us an example of some "Absolute Moral" that we can examine?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 178 of 560 (645736)
12-29-2011 9:40 AM


The origin of morals
According to the Bible morals are not absolute and come from humans knowing good and evil. The source of morality is some tree in a forbidden garden.
Edited by jar, : fix sentence

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