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Hitler either was a Christian

PD writes:Too many short posts

You don't know when it was actually religiously motivated or not.

Did he do it in the name of religion?

but then we're getting into religion being the tool used by those in power to control the individuals... and that ain't really the religions fault either.

So if you focus on the bad things that people do, I too doubt you'll be able to find dependency on religiousity.

Wiki writes:The Lord's Resistance Army (also Lord's Resistance Movement or Lakwena Part Two) is a militant group with a syncretic Christian and traditional African religious ideology. The group operates in northern Uganda, South Sudan, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Central Africa.[4] The group used to operate mainly in northern Uganda and also in parts of South Sudan, the Central African Republic, and the DRC.The LRA was formed in 1987 and until about 2007 it was engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government. It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the "spokesperson" of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Holy Spirit, which the group believes can represent itself in many manifestations.The group is based on a number of different beliefs including local religious rituals, mysticism, traditional religion, Acholi nationalism and Christianity[5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14] and claims to be establishing a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and local Acholi tradition.[15][16][17] The LRA is accused of widespread human rights violations, including murder, abduction, mutilation, sexual enslavement of women and children and forcing children to participate in hostilities.[18].

Wiki writes:In January, 1997 the LRA attacked Lamwo, in northern Uganda. More than 400 people were killed, and approximately 100,000 people were displaced.[24]In May, 2002 the LRA attacked Eastern Equatoria in Sudan. An estimated 450 people were killed, and witnesses state some villagers were forced to walk off a cliff.[24]On December 25, 2008, the LRA massacred 189 people and abducted 120 children during a concert celebration sponsored by the Catholic church in Faradje, DRC, continuing the attack on December 26. Shortly afterwards, the LRA struck three additional communities: 75 people killed in a church north of Dungu, and the church burned; 48 people killed in Bangadi, and 213 people in Gurba.[25] The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs estimated the death toll as 189 in Faradje, Doruma and Gurba.[25] However, Caritas International estimated the number of victims to be about 500.

Wiki writes:The Albigensian Crusade or Cathar Crusade (1209—1229) was a 20-year military campaign initiated by the Catholic Church to eliminate Catharism in Languedoc.

But what if you look at the motivations towards the good things that people do?

And the individuals usually follow the tenets.

Having daughters that acted like normal Canadian teenagers made Shafia furious, the jury has heard. The girls Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, and Geeti, 13 dressed in short skirts and flirted with boys........"They committed treason from beginning to end, Shafia told the other two accused during one conversation in the car. They betrayed humankind, they betrayed Islam, they betrayed our religion and creed, they betrayed our tradition, they betrayed everything.

No Christians around back then. How many deaths do you find in the NT? I know, "but they adopted the Jewish God, and believe it so they have to justify the deaths even though it wasn't under Christianity."

Some believe Hitler was an Atheist

It's a shame you decided to deal in some fiction instead of sticking with reality.

The issue between BFT and myself deals with using death tolls from the OT stories and not sticking to reality.

If we follow that logic, then since some believe that Hitler was an Atheist, then his death tolls should not be added to the religious tally.

Believing something is true doesn't make it fact.

Where in the Bible do they refer to God as a person as in human individual?

PD writes:Where in the Bible do they refer to God as a person as in human individual?

If you want a fresh perspective on this, I have frequently heard Muslims claiming that the 9/11 attackers were not Muslims. they use exactly the same logic as you employ here. What do you say to that? Ready to let Islam off the hook on that one? Were the terrorists "not real Muslims"?

(and I would suggest that I'm in the majority world wide),