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Author Topic:   Moral high ground
Phat
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Message 12 of 318 (644543)
12-19-2011 12:03 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by jar
12-18-2011 10:47 AM


Re: Nobody does Genocide better Christianity
I would like to see support for the idea that the US killed more people than Soviet Russia or Nazi Germany, although you will try and tell us that Hitler was a Christian...(Though we in the club know better)

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Phat
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Message 14 of 318 (644557)
12-19-2011 4:07 AM
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12-19-2011 3:01 AM


Re: Nobody does Genocide better Christianity
frako writes:
Do you want more evidence the guy believed in your imaginary friend or does this suffice??
yes, but he obviously was not a real Christian, seeing as a real one would have the Holy, rather than the unholy spirit.

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Message 36 of 318 (644684)
12-20-2011 2:25 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Taz
12-19-2011 2:46 PM


Re: What is a true christian?
Taz writes:
I'm just trying to figure out what you guys would define as a true christian.
To start with, we need to ask ourselves if a human has similar traits, tendencies, shortcomings, sins, if you will...whether they are religious or not. In other words, do all humans have potentially the same potential for killing?
We seem to have case examples in History, as PD points out, that include human regimes of all religious or secular persuasions and differing religions.
Next, any Christian who is honest with themselves knows that Jesus was not some Nordic Aryan proclaiming himself as a conquering Messiah. I would assume some consensus for the character of Jesus Christ as presented in the gospel books and that a true christian would attempt to live emulating those characteristics and standards. Has Christianity been used as an excuse for ethnic cleansing and blatant capitalistic expansion? Yes. I disagree with nwr, however, that the christian belief system itself was to be blamed...except as a convenient excuse. The human nature was to be blamed and responsibility accepted.
No group of people can claim a moral high ground, for we are all human and all equal in that regard.

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