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Not sure how the US is more right than Iran, sorry.It's also irrelevant.It is not up to me to determine Iran's internal policies.Iran presents negligible threat to the US and it is up to Iranians to determine Iran's internal policies and to those who might be threatened by Iran to work out their relationships.

Theo, for a thread you think is a joke and a waste of space you sure do pay a lot of attention to it and give a lot of cheers/jeers. Jus sayin bro...jus...sayin.Edited by Chuck77, : No reason given.

What would be the metric if we wanted to compare the two? What do you base your estimations on if not a standard of 'rightness'? So you can only be critical of your own countries policies? I think that seeking nuclear weapons is hardly an internal policy. The world is smaller than that.

I don't think it is possible to determine which culture is better. I also don't think it is something we should do more than discuss. It is as reasonable for them to tell us how bad our Commodity Based Culture is as it is for us to tell them how bad their women's rights culture is.Seeking nuclear weapons is pretty futile since no Nation can really afford to use them.I don't think there is any one standard of rightness.Finally, I am a citizen of MY country and so I have a duty and obligation to be critical of MY country.

If you don't catch any fish, isn't it still fishing?

You're right, I overstated the case that every country wants them. However, any country with a beef towards another country that has nukes will want to have nukes. Considering the destructive capability of nukes, as long as you have enough to wipe out your enemy's country (or even just government) you'd have at least a form of parity. I mean, who cares if your enemy could wipe you out 5 times over and you could only wipe them out 3 times over? Once is enough. Only if people follow your call to action. Merely possessing a weapon shouldn't make it more or less likely for a country to be attacked. As for nukes, most countries have had them only as a dterrant. Now, the argument for or against deterance as a reason for nukes is something else, entirely. But, only one country in the history of the world has ever used a nuclear weapon against an enemy...and they did it twice...I'm sure you can figure out which country that is. All countries could protect their interests without nukes...nukes are just cheaper and easier in the long run. The US getting rid of nukes would not only make the world a bit safer, it would also give us the moral authority to tell others not to have them. As it stands, we're the biggest hypocrites in the world on the nuclear topic. I'm not sure what you meant by this.

I must say, I didn't agree with Theodoric with his initial criticism of this topic since we were having genuine, albeit random as shit, discussions. However, if this was your idea for this topic, I definitely share his opinion. If you want to "get to know people" in this sort of manner, ask them for their facebook page or some shit.

"There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot."

That fine line is beer.

Of course it is. fishing is the action of attempting to catch fish, otherwise it would be called catching, instead of fishing. Just as shopping is different than buying. I can shop all day and not purchase anything but I am still shopping.I think it is less clear that trolling exists, in the context we are speaking about, unless the emotional response is received. standing on the shore is for poor people, you gotta sit in a boat.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

"A troll is someone who posts inflammatory messages with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response".Trolling is the action of attempting to make the other person mad. You can troll all day and not make anyone mad, but you're still trolling.ABE:Its just unsuccessful trolling. Even if nobody responds, it'd still be trolling. Sometime people respond just to say that you're trolling, even tho their not mad, and that just wouldn't make sense otherwise: Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.

ok.sorry Fishing is my favorite hobby, and any time I can talk about fishing is great, and I got excited for a second. good point, i hear ya. I just googled ABE and nothing really came up, what is ABESo what if your position offends people and causes them to have an emotional response. Does that make you a troll, because someone was offended by your opinion?

Added By Edit No, its about your intention.

ok so what if:it is your goal to provoke a response but you are not being inflammatory?

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