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I could not find a topic for the welcome of new members, so I will post here. Evolution .vs. Creation is a debate that I am very interested in and is the reason I returned to college to earn a degree. I am YEC but not like any that I have found so far on this forum. I have a wide range of possible ages for the earth but they are no older than a million years and no younger than 150,000 years. I believe in a global "flood", but I do not restrict its activity to massive amounts of rainfall as we see the phenomena today. I believe the great "flood" coincided with the Late Heavy Bombardment, and that the great flood of noah coincides with that periods characteristic total coverage of water. I know that was 3.9 billion years ago measured radiometrically, but I believe it happened much later than that due to accelerated radioactive decay.

Well, how can anything be a mistake when nothing is considered a fact? You can cite certain observations and data as evidence in support of your idea. I can take those same observations and data and show that there is room for the idea that those same data could be evidence for something else entirely.

I know darwinists or anticreationists in general think they have a lock on the truth of reality, but science does not rule out the possiblity of a young earth or of an earth that was covered in water and in which no life existed. That is all the bible really claims. What you claim as ridiculous are the "sunday school" versions of creationism and the flood that some YEC propose. It is these cartoon versions of creationism that are so easy to ridicule, and it is for that reason that you claim them as the YEC position. I am sorry to say that 90 % of creationists do fit the picture or cartoon you guys portray. This is why YEC must fill the college classrooms of america if they ever hope to overcome their silly, cartoonish image. That is exactly what I hope to do.

And your point is?

Things that scare you, or things that disturb your mental state of well being, are easy to ridicule. That is why you ridicule YEC and a universal flood and no other reason you pretend to do so. As far as christianity is concerned, it is the opposite as you state: christianity would be much better off without people like you who refuse to believe the plain words of God.

So, just what are the requirements for an idea to be a valid alternative? I thought science was supposed to be open to new ideas?The plain word of God? I mean that most people understand what someone else says based on the plain meaning of the speaker. I read the bible as if what was written were being spoken to me by a person on the street. I read in the plainest way. If that way is not the one that is intended by the text, then the person who objects to that intepretation is under obligation to give his own interpretation and the reasoning behind it.The creation story was written by Moses long after the fact...probably 200,000 years after the fact. How do I know that Moses got it right? I don't. I believe it on faith. If Moses didn't get it right, then I have no reason to believe that Jesus rose from the dead. If one part of the bible is a fairy tale, then there is no reason to believe all of it isn't a fairy tale. Until someone can show me why any of the claims of the bible are impossible, there is no reason for me to not believe it is a document of reality.What do I know personally? I wasn't there 200,000 years ago or 4.56 billion years ago either, neither were you. You don't know anything about what happened personally and neither do I.

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Creationism, the Biblical Flood or circus clowns do not scare me or disturb my mental state of well being.
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Your actions speak otherwise.And

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as to the "plain words of God" it is a shame she couldn't even get her story straight about either creation or the Biblical Flood.
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I have my story straight, and I am not a she.

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But there is hope. As long as you are not going to one of the "Avoidance Colleges" you will finally be provided with some honest and actual evidence and in a very short time you will be an exYEC and understand that the Biblical Flood stories are just myth.
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I am going to East Tennessee State University. I have attempted 14 credit hours and my GPA for those hours is 3.91. Nothing I have learned so far in geology and biology and the philosophy of science has shown me that either YEC or the biblical flood is a myth. The only thing they have that comes close is radiometric dating. If that ever falls apart as a solid method of determing the absolute age of very old things, then they have nothing in my opinion.I have learned quite a bit of science, and I'm sorry to disappoint you, but nothing contradicts what I believe from the bible at all.Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

Most YEC think the earth is older than 1 million years? That is news to me. Otherwise, what evidence contradicts my beliefs?