Modern Civics

End birthright citizenship. If you cannot pass the test to prove that you understand the process and you do not have the knowledge or ability to understand the process, then you should also not be able to participate as a voter or public office holder.Those that cannot, will not or refuse to pass the exam, still can maintain their resident status, but become exempt from many of the "extras" that are afforded to citizens.

I was just taking a stab at a question posed by the OP.When I was a kid in P.R. Illinois we had to take a civics exam to get out of junior high school, I remember that it was some sort of "big deal", but it was super easy. yes. being born "here" means you are a resident, you must earn your citizenship, by passing tests, or through some form of civil or military service (where you learn the required information in order to stay in the service). I think tea Partiers would pass with flying colors, I don't know much about TX legislators.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

I think a refresher should be necessary in order to keep your ability to vote, hold office, and receive a tax break (or some other incentive, I just think like a conservative so less tax is always on my mind). Like retaking the driving test, or continuing education that is required of people in the medical field, a certification program whereby you show you are still worthy of US Citizenship.

That is why I mentioned residency for those incapable or unwilling to hold the title of citizen. But would you care to mention the rights I have overlooked? Show me how or STFU. Too bad it already exists in the test that immigrants must pass to become US citizens. Silly Americans. Wow someone who didn’t take me out of context and strawman to shit what I originally said, I didn’t think that was possible around here. Good job.

Lulztypical response when called out. Typical and predictable. Interesting that you mention those. When they bill of rights where ratified in 1791 were women citizens? Were Native Americans? Blacks? Were women protected? Did they have rights? Could they vote? Could they own property?
Or were they simply Residents? Savage animals? And Property?
How could these groups gain rights, gain citizenship, gain freedom? Wouldn’t giving them shared freedoms redefine everything in the US?just to be pedantic We’d probably have to grandfather everyone in who was already a citizen at the time of the new rules passing, but everyone else, would have to test out.

I am not aware of the situation in the Czech Republic, what happened with voting there? More disteurbing is that anyone who disagrees with your view is a fucking idiot. But then you do call yourself a tyrant. Sic semper tyrannis He wasn’t arguing that you did say that. But I agree with him, its sounds like you should be the emperor of Australia, because you know what is right, and those who disagree with you are fucking idiots and stupid people. Word.
I should clarify. I was also speaking on a Federal Level. State and local elections are completely different.

Nope. It just seemed as if redefining things was an issue for you, when this nation is pretty much about redefinition every 30-50 years anyway. You may be talking about voting, but I have been talking about citizenship since I answered the OP. I think that information is available already. You have to be involved in your community and care about it. It is only your own fault for being uneducated in your own community, on community issues. I haven’t started reading that one yet, maybe I should.its difficult though because, as you know, anyone who disagrees with jon on this is an un-American idiot.Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

DISCLAIMER:
My position has been purely hypothetical. It was a response to the OP when the OP asked Do any of you have any suggestions as to how we could reintroduce this discipline to an apathetic public?
Is there anything else that you feel should be part of a mandatory education in preparation for becoming a U.S. Citizen?I just came up with this on the fly as a possible idea to the OP in an attempt to generate discussion. I was just participating in the thread, I am just answering the questions, and playing along. These are not necessarily my own personal thoughts on this issue, as much as it is a stance that I am taking for this thread. Usually Dr. Adequate or someone jumps in and asks questions to me that make me realize it is a bad idea, or reach some other good conclusion about the idea, while the low-brow posters strawman me and call me names (such is life here @ EvC).To answer your question that I quoted above:
I was not interested in reducing rights, as much as creating a catalyst for people to be more engaged and have some stakes in having knowledge in civics. The dilemma is that naturalized citizens tend to have more knowledge and understanding on the government process than birthright citizens, and what could be done to either get people interested in civics, or could there be incentives to reintroduce civics to an apathetic public. This was my idea for the dilemma. I went with voting and hold public office, and possibly a tax break for those who pass the test, of course the residents who do not pass the test would be afforded the protective rights granted to everyone. I am not saying it is the best idea, I am just giving an answer to the OP I would suggest spending some campaign money and writing articles for the local newspaper. To get the word out. Possibly even advertising on the cities website. Maybe rent a billboard and advertise your self as well as a webpage where you focus on the local issues important to you that you are running for. In addition you can visit and campaign at the local clubs (VFW, Moose Lodge, K of C, etc.).Continued apathy and going with the flow will not solve anything, nor allow you to make a name for yourself.

Ahh Jim Crow in the USA. That is a State by State issue as you register to vote in the state in which you reside. That was not a federal thing. Yes this happened to blacks and natives, as well. I don’t really know much about the Roma. It is odd that they are not excepted in a continent that is pretty well mixed anyway. They must really be outsiders, or have a different religion, or not be white-ish.Ok so they have to serve in the military instead of passing a vote test. To goal in this thread is to get people into civics, and know it.

and most people don't; that is why they join political parties. so they can get funding to print signs, and pamphlets, and have like minded people help them by going door to door, and handing out information. though when you sell out to a party sometimes you have to vote the way that party wants you to vote, and at that moment you become a POLITICIAN. then I wouldn't vote for them.

who knows?I guess he doesn't realize that the citizens of Washington DC (600,000+) are not represented in his so called "free democracy".they have the funniest license plate motto: here's more than a half a million people who are refused the "rights" that "everyone" has by simple fact of geographic location.there are more people in DC than the entire State of Wyoming, yet Wyoming gets 2 senators, and a congressman.how Un-AmericanEdited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.

Happy Birthday guys. You are still remembered and loved in Virginia.

LOL @ ignorant yankees

thanks for proving my point, yankee.