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Perdition Member (Idle past 3259 days) Posts: 1593 From: Wisconsin Joined: |
I must say I am honestly frightened at the prospect of a obstructionist, corporate social-con hawk getting elected. We survived Bush II, we'll survive this, too. Though I too worry about the cost of survival under such an administration.
I honestly feel trepidation that people are so propagandized about the 'evils' of socialism and the perils of the lamestream media perpetuating the leftist agendas. Honestly, I think the 'perils of socialism' really reflects an anti-European bias in this country. When we point out that the closest countries there are to socialism, like the Nordic countries, have the longest life-span, happiest citizens, and stable economies, despite being up near the Arctic circle and all of the mood killers that entails, we're usually told that there's something more at work, or that our data are flawed, or something. I truly think people just don't want us to "copy" other countries, that we need to come up with the best system on our own. Members of Congress routinely denounce some of Obama's policies, or those of the more liberal members, as "European" as if that's some kind of insult. Had Americans invented socialism, we'd probably be living it right now.
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Rahvin Member Posts: 4039 Joined: Member Rating: 8.2 |
Had Americans invented socialism, we'd probably be living it right now. Basically. Americans tend to believe that American is "exceptional," that what works for other nations will not work for us, and that America is the best regardless of any evidence to the contrary. The "socialism" nonsense is more soccer-holliganry than actual debate. "We" are "capitalist," "they" are "socialist." We're the good guys, they're the bad guys. We don't need to know what those words actually mean, we don't need to know if a given policy actually has anything to do with "socialism." All we need to know is that the other team says it's good and our team captain says it's bad.The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it. - Francis Bacon "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
Perd writes: Had Americans invented socialism, we'd probably be living it right now. Because america's founding father's were 1%ers, that could not have happened. They argued whether a king of america should exist. They established that only the elite (landowners) could have a say in government. They stripped voting from women and blacks. Indeed, Madison speaking of governments and laws from which the elite would rule said:
quote: 1% versus 99%. Has much changed in america since the 18th century?
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Perdition Member (Idle past 3259 days) Posts: 1593 From: Wisconsin Joined: |
Has much changed in america since the 18th century? Yes. Especially since the Great Depression, there were laws and protections (those dreaded regulations Republicans like to whine about) that protected the poor and the middle class. Sadly, many of those rules, because they worked, now seem to some to be protections against boogeymen that aren't real threats, and that somehow stifle business, so they're being repealed and rolled back and ignored. So, what we need to do is bring our laws back to how they used to be after the Great Depression, not back to how they were in the 20s or before.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Rush Limbaugh:
So Newt wanted an open marriage. BFD. At least he asked his wife for permission instead of cheating on her. That's a mark of character, in my book. And here's Keith Ablow of Fox News:
1) Three women have met Mr. Gingrich and been so moved by his emotional energy and intellect that they decided they wanted to spend the rest of their lives with him. 2) Two of these women felt this way even though Mr. Gingrich was already married. 3 ) One of them felt this way even though Mr. Gingrich was already married for the second time, was not exactly her equal in the looks department and had a wife (Marianne) who wanted to make his life without her as painful as possible. Conclusion: When three women want to sign on for life with a man who is now running for president, I worry more about whether we’ll be clamoring for a third Gingrich term, not whether we’ll want to let him go after one. It is not often that I am lost for words. Fortunately, in this case it doesn't seem necessary to say anything.
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DC85 Member Posts: 876 From: Richmond, Virginia USA Joined:
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Rush Limbaugh: So Newt wanted an open marriage. BFD. At least he asked his wife for permission instead of cheating on her. That's a mark of character, in my book. And here's Keith Ablow of Fox News: 1) Three women have met Mr. Gingrich and been so moved by his emotional energy and intellect that they decided they wanted to spend the rest of their lives with him. 2) Two of these women felt this way even though Mr. Gingrich was already married. 3 ) One of them felt this way even though Mr. Gingrich was already married for the second time, was not exactly her equal in the looks department and had a wife (Marianne) who wanted to make his life without her as painful as possible. Conclusion: When three women want to sign on for life with a man who is now running for president, I worry more about whether we’ll be clamoring for a third Gingrich term, not whether we’ll want to let him go after one. It is not often that I am lost for words. Fortunately, in this case it doesn't seem necessary to say anything.
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Taz Member (Idle past 3313 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Gingrich: Celebrating 'God, families and values' while asking for divorce
quote: Edited to add in spaces so anglagard doesn't get an aneurysm from the lack of spaces. Edited by Taz, : No reason given.
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anglagard Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
Awhile back you criticized me for using too many commas.
Can you handle a bit of constructive criticism for using too few spaces and paragraphs? Your post, while great in content, is poor in readability..Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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The SC results today should be interesting.
Is it just me or does the (liberal of course ) press keep reporting how the (IA caucus, NH primary, SC primary ...) pick the eventual winners? Has every newscaster forgotten that the GOP changed the primary rules this year by making results proportional for the national convention, not winner take all?
quote: Prediction: Gingrich wins SC, Romney second, Paul third, Santorum fourth, Cain (he's still on the ballot) fifth, news pundits go wild. Note further that "Super Tuesday" is March 6th:
quote: It's going to be fun watching the media posturing. Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel American Zen Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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anglagard Member (Idle past 858 days) Posts: 2339 From: Socorro, New Mexico USA Joined: |
Zen Deist writes: Prediction: Gingrich wins SC, Romney second, Paul third, Santorum fourth, Cain (he's still on the ballot) fifth, news pundits go wild. Good call. At 77.2% reporting in: Gingrich 40.8%Romney 26.5% Santorum 17.5% Paul 13.5% Cain (Colbert) 1.0% Only underestimated the capacity of {explicative deleted} to enthrall the redneck masses. Me, I'm voting for Gary Johnson unless either Gordon Gekko or the Stay-Puft Marshmallow 'man' gets too close.Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon
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DC85 Member Posts: 876 From: Richmond, Virginia USA Joined: |
This year, the nominee will be Romney, since it's his "turn." Next election, it will be Gingrich (unless someone from a major family, like the Bushes or Reagans [fat chance there] decides top run.). Well at least one of those Reagan boys doesn't have a chance.... Ronald Reagan JR is a Liberal and GASP an Atheist
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dwise1 Member Posts: 5948 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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Dude! Even Ronnie Himself wouldn't have a chance! The inmates have taken over the Republican asylum!
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi anglagard,
At 77.2% reporting in: Gingrich 40.8%Romney 26.5% Santorum 17.5% Paul 13.5% Cain (Colbert) 1.0% That Santorum can't seem to get traction among the evangelicals should tell you something -- that he is too fanatic for the fanatics? Note he still had the sweatervest on last time he was seen in public:
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
That Santorum can't seem to get traction among the evangelicals should tell you something -- that he is too fanatic for the fanatics?
I think it has more to do with the perception that Santorum can't beat Romney, but Gingrich can.Jesus was a liberal hippie
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.4 |
As a poster on a pretty right wing board I lurk at put it:
If Gingrich ever decided to run a whistle stop campaign, his train would consist of a string of baggage cars. God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177 It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in mindssoon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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