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I seem to have missed your sarcasm tag. Could you point it out for me?

Weed or Cigs?If weed:Um, it's natures healthcare. Anxiety? Smoke. Insomina? Smoke. It practically solves everythhing.If cigs:Yeah, I have stopped smoking those.- Oni

I'm going to assume you're fat, and probably fell due to that. I would suggest not only a low carb diet, but a step class that teaches you how to properly go up and down a flight of stairs. Easy though, if you're fat you should probably start on a stationary bike. I would say mostly all.- Oni

Here you go Burger Kings new delivery service!This should be illegal. The government should NOT provide free healthcare and should instead spend OUR money stopping us from killing ourselves.Jesus Christ, how can we have the balls to demand health coverage from our government when WE are the cause of our own problems?- Oni

Well good for you Mr. Personal Responsibility.But we all get old if we don't die beforehand.And with age generally comes the need for medical care of some sort. Even the fittest and most personally responsible will get there eventually.So let's assume that we all take up jogging, stop eating cheesecake and start doing sit-ups thus leading to us all living to a ripe old age. At which point nature does what it does and we end up physically decrepit and/or mentally a bit the worse for wear.What's the best way of dealing with that inevitability in your view?

Hey, don't knock sit ups. I can tell you that at my age I'm thrilled every single morning when I find I really can sit up. Made it through one more.

Um, die.What's the other option? Linger on when NATURE has already told you you're done?- Oni

OK. At what age do we start just letting people die from physical ailments rather than seeking to medically treat them?At what point do we deem that "NATURE" has decided.....?

Well you have thus far passed the Oni test of the right to life.If you find one morning that you cannot sit-up for whatever reason nature has apparently spoken and it is time to give up the ghost.

Any age. When it's natures time for you to go, it's time to go. EVERY single species lives by these rules. We're the only ones who think we can by-pass this because we're selfish.When it's time to go for a dolphin or ape, both sentient animals, it's time to go.- Oni

God bless America.

Ummm, yeah! I'm with you Oni. When nature has said we are done, we should NOT fight it.However, try telling that to my six year old niece with OPERABLE cancer. How dare she go against god's plan and hope to go on living, in the process bankrupting her money-loving republican family. That selfish little bitch!NATURE H A S SPOKEN! (Kidding, K I D D I N G !)(Oni, whadup? Where is my favorite co-tin-foil-hat-wearing, admirer-of-girls, Chomsky-loving, humanitarian-about-town, lover-of-life-food-music-girls, did-I-mention-girls?, funny comedian this morning? Have you gone over to the dark side? Have you become a Presbyterian? Say it aint so Oni! Say it aint sooo *dronester breaks down, weeps inconsolably into his BK double bacon cheeseburger*

Thank youuuu, my point exactly. Well, I wouldn't call her a bitch. JeezIf her parents want to pay for it though, I support the effort all the way. I would feel a lot better if you were weeping into a nice garden salad.- Oni

BK is delivering the garden salad with large fries and a shake as we speak (thanks for the tip about BK delivering). God help them if they forget the croutons!(I am kidding about the niece-cancer scenerio. Jeez.)HEY, THIS IS MY 500th post! Percy release the balloons!Edited by dronester, : No reason given.

There will always be those in society who need access to medical facilities. The very young, the disabled, those unlucky enough to suffer sickness and disease through no fault of their own, those who suffer injuries etc. etc. Shit happens. Accidents, disease, illness, birth complications etc. etc. etc. are just facts of human life and always have been. And no amount of sit-ups will protect you or anyone else from all of these things.Furthermore even those who are lucky enough to live most of their lives without any significant medical need will very probably eventually reach and age where they need some form of medical help. In some cases minor, simply to make the accumulation of minor ailments that old age results in less of an issue. In other cases significant medical assistance will be needed because age related deterioration results in painful and debilitating conditions that can take many years to reach the point of actual death.None of us really know who or when any of this will hit. It might be us. It might not. We just know on a fairly statistical basis that some people will need assistance more than others. That is what insurance is all about.Socialised healthcare is just a form of socialised medical insurance with the largest number of people sharing the risk as possible. At it’s best the priority is placed on providing care to those that need it most over things like profit that inevitably distract private providers.For all your talk of burgers and sit-ups that is the bigger picture. At least as I see it. On this basis we wouldn't bother with medical science period would we? Penicillin is not the work of the devil Oni.Curing kids of cancer, dealing with birth problems, treating people who suffer horrible injuries in accidents, fighting disease, treating infection or making older people's lives pain free and productive rather than leaving them to die in pain - These things are not abhorrant acts against nature.It is these acts of collective risk sharing and compassion for others that allow us to justifiably describe the societies we have created as "civilised"......Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.