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Tangle
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Message 11 of 50 (649534)
01-24-2012 4:17 AM
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01-23-2012 12:08 PM


subbie writes:
PRATT: If we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?
I did actually work out a proper answer to that for a friend with no biology background (with a lot of help from people here).
EvC Forum: "If I descended from an ape, how come apes are still here?"
Of course it's easier to ask the dumb question than answer it. Here's mine
Q. Why are there no transitional fossils?
A1. There are. Visit any Natural History Museum, you can see them for yourself.
A2. All fossils are transitional fossils. (Unless you happened across the last in the line just before the comet hit.)
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Message 21 of 50 (649892)
01-26-2012 10:12 AM


Q. But I see order and design everywhere. Order and design requires a designer, it can't happen by chance can it?
A. Here, read this. (The Blind Watchmaker)
I really don't have a pithy answer that works for this one.

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Message 23 of 50 (649900)
01-26-2012 11:41 AM
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01-26-2012 11:36 AM


Sloppy of me, try this:
Q. But I see order and design everywhere. Order and design requires a designer doesn't it?

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Message 25 of 50 (649912)
01-26-2012 2:09 PM
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01-26-2012 12:00 PM


...which begs the next question
Q. but snowflakes show design, even if the process of forming them is natural, something had to create the process that forms them naturally.
And so on until you get to 'something can't come from nothing'

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Message 27 of 50 (649920)
01-26-2012 2:37 PM
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01-26-2012 2:19 PM


A1. Assertion is not evidence; it is not even argument.
Oh yes it is. (just saying....)
A2. So you're a deist now, or what? If you will admit that the process of forming the various kinds of organisms was completely natural, then since I was arguing for evolution, rather than against deism, I win.
I doubt that 1 in 10 fundies know what a Deist or a Theist is. Certainly you'd have to explain painfully that you can't make the logic leap from believing that some sort of god created the universe to 'and he loves you and cares for you, answers your prayers and is called Allah etc etc'.
And anyway, I believe that everything we see around us was created, not evolved and your bloody snow flake or crystal or whatever just shows that he's got an eye for detail and is damn good at it. Obviously design needs a designer.
Not rational you see.....

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