The summary of my positions on the two points are:
1. There are simpler systems. I'll save them for the "real" debate.
2. Each component can be useful in its own right, and thus do not need to all arise at once to be useful. Thus, "simultaneous emergence" is not an issue.
In a nutshell. Do you want to debate here (or rather, the Evolution of the Eye thread) or in a forum free from interference, to insure a focused debate? That seemed to be a concern of yours, and sometimes a structured format is helpful in discussion.
[This message has been edited by Zhimbo, 11-06-2003]