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Then you should have used his definition.
But instead you decided to dishonestly attempt a juvenile 'gotcha' where you use a definition completely different to everyone else.
But you knew this - which is why I accused you of deceit.
You were not
deceived.
There was no definition given in
Message 48 and the definition in
Message 77 doesn't deal with what an omnipotent parent would do.
You were not lead down a garden path concerning the meaning of omnipotent and there was no gotcha. You were simply asked why omnipotence makes a difference and why an omnipotent parent would do more?
Message 59,
Message 63, and
Message 65.
There should be some basis or rationale for your opinion.
Since you didn't provide any more explanation, the only way to keep the discussion going was to provide my opinion and provide links and definitions to support my opinion, which I did in
Message 70.
Omnipotence has nothing to do with whether one would or could do any more to help their "child" survive or succeed in life. Again we are talking about adults and the parent/child analogy used in Christianity.
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And when it comes to discussions you value stupid semantic tricks over honesty or accuracy.
Words change over time. I find it useful to try and understand how the authors used the words. If you feel my knowledge of the past is inaccurate, you are free to give a counter opinion and your rationale for that position. Disagreeing with me or having a different style of debate doesn't make my argument stupid, dishonest, or inaccurate.
If one claims that God can do whatever we can imagine, there still has to be some basis or rationale for that opinion.
Besides authority, power seems to be the operative word in the definition
Message 77.
omnipotent
[om-nip-uh-tuhnt] Show IPA
adjective
1. almighty or infinite in power, as God.
2. having very great or unlimited authority or power.
What is
power?
a (1) : ability to act or produce an effect (2) : ability to get extra-base hits (3) : capacity for being acted upon or undergoing an effect b : legal or official authority, capacity, or right
2 a : possession of control, authority, or influence over others b : one having such power; specifically : a sovereign state c : a controlling group : establishment often used in the phrase the powers that be d archaic : a force of armed men e chiefly dialect : a large number or quantity
3 a : physical might b : mental or moral efficacy c : political control or influence
What is the basis or rationale that power means anything we can imagine?
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You will need to explain every single word as you cannot be trusted not to switch meanings half way through the discussion.
I'm usually pretty good at providing links to unusual words as I did in
Message 70. As for omnipotent, I didn't make a claim to it's meaning, so there was nothing to switch from. I just hadn't given my opinion on the issue yet.
I don't feel the Bible supports the idea of eternal torment, but the God of Abraham is portrayed as an
authoritarian.
Parenting Styles1 Authoritative parenting
2
Authoritarian parenting
The parent is demanding but not responsive. Elaborate becomes totalitarian parenting.
Authoritarian parenting, also called strict parenting,[15] is characterized by high expectations of conformity and compliance to parental rules and directions, while allowing little open dialogue between parent and child. "Authoritarian parenting is a restrictive, punitive style in which parents advise the child to follow their directions and to respect their work and effort."[1] Authoritarian parents expect much of their child but generally do not explain the reasoning for the rules or boundaries.[18] Authoritarian parents are less responsive to their children’s needs, and are more likely to spank a child rather than discuss the problem.[19]
3 Indulgent parenting
4 Neglectful parenting
ABE: I'm sorry you felt deceived. That was not my intent.
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