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Author Topic:   When Earth’s population was 10,000 persons
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Message 42 of 194 (602594)
01-29-2011 4:59 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Buzsaw
01-26-2011 12:36 AM


Re: Henry Morris On Global Population Problem
ABE: Assuming the Noahic flood, the world's population roughly 2500 years ago would have been eight.

Um mm 2500 years ago 500 years before Christ. my guess is you mistyped cause the growth would have to be much higher to produce our population today

However, the average rate would only have to be one half of one per cent per year to produce the present world population in 4,300 years.

ok using your time line of 4300 years ago there would be 763600 people alive at the time of jesus christ or in 2300 years. Not even enough to fill one of the mayor cities back then like rome, egyipt ....

lets go further shall we. In the year 1800 the estimated number of people was one billion. Using one half of one percent on an annual growth of population the number of people in 1800 would be 13.5 billion

to get to a reasonably close number to our population 53674538.12
you have to use an annual growth of 1.0035 or 0.0035%

but then the numbers of people living in the year 0 or the time of Christ would be 24634.24 insanely too little.

using an average growth over this time scale where the actual growth of the population fluctuated way too much. Is not mathematical proof of anything why let me try to explain it to you

lets say we have an annual growth of 10% per year and we have 10 people to start with if everything goes alright we have 21 people in 10 years but lets say in year 5 half of them dies we have 10.6 people alive in year 10. so it is relatively impossible to use an average in this case because of wares famine, plagues .... and loads of other stuff that killed of tones of people at different times.

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Message 61 of 194 (603109)
02-02-2011 6:55 PM
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02-02-2011 5:32 PM


Re: What differentiates human prototypes from alleged ancestry
Really? And you know this for *most* cultures of 20,000 years ago how, exactly? Is that why the Parsis of India let vultures eat their dead? Individually?

Or why an African tribe gives the body of a dead person to the lions.


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Message 87 of 194 (604445)
02-12-2011 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by goldenlightArchangel
02-09-2011 3:39 PM


Re: There never was an answer without you seeing
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An electric generator does not produce enough power to keep itself operating, even so the consumption of regular food when you’re older will never be enough to restore the initial amount of calcium, proteins and hormones that are released from the brain in order for the production of the gastric juice necessary to digest regular food or dead flesh.

When one feeds the Human body solely with fruits; and only fruits from the compatible trees, then a lot of hormones, calcium and proteins do not have to be constantly released from the brain in order for the production of gastric juice that is necessary to digest dead flesh or regular food.


Wtf "An electric generator does not produce enough power to keep itself operating" Verry true power gets lost to heat friction .... so it cant produce enough to keep itself running. "even so the consumption of regular food when you’re older will never be enough to restore the initial amount of calcium" so um how did that calcium get there somehow your mother got enough to give you all this extra calcium but cant get enoug for hereself or you cant get enough for yourself now that your out of the womb.

Electric generator powering itself is a closed system no extra energy gets in energy gets lost to heat..... soon not enough energy is left to run the generator.

Humans do not eat their own fecies they eat other things that initialy got their "power" from the sun so not a closed system so why the hell is this quote comparring the 2.

"When one feeds the Human body solely with fruits; and only fruits from the compatible trees, then a lot of hormones, calcium and proteins do not have to be constantly released from the brain in order for the production of gastric juice that is necessary to digest dead flesh or regular food"

lol and what about the other stuff you need to live that you CANNOT get from fruits?


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Message 134 of 194 (651977)
02-11-2012 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 132 by goldenlightArchangel
02-10-2012 3:47 PM


Re: Distinction between human prototypes and ancestor
The more different their languages are, the more demonstration it is that in the beginning they did not spread to America all by themselves. The understanding is given that their forefathers were brought and settled, by intelligent designer, in their respective lands.

Sorry but there is evidence how language evolved

http://www.cosmostv.org/...is-how-eve-spoke-every-human.html


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Message 154 of 194 (654709)
03-03-2012 4:13 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by goldenlightArchangel
03-02-2012 7:37 AM


Re: Population growth Models – TWO DIFFERENT ONES
Year World Population in Millions
70,000 BC <0.015
10,000 BC 1
9000 BC 3
8000 BC 5
7000 BC 7
6000 BC 10
5000 BC 15
4000 BC 20
3000 BC 25
2000 BC 35
1000 BC 50
500 BC 100
AD 1 200
1000 310
1750 791
1800 978
1850 1,262
1900 1,650
1950 2,519
1955 2,756
1960 2,982
1965 3,335
1970 3,692
1975 4,068
1980 4,435
1985 4,831
1990 5,263
1995 5,674
2000 6,070
2005 6,454
2010 6,972

multiply the population number by 1 000 000 those are our estimates. found on Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

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Message 156 of 194 (654857)
03-05-2012 7:44 AM
Reply to: Message 155 by goldenlightArchangel
03-05-2012 7:00 AM


Re: Beyond the thin red line – Population growth Model
There are no evidences that termination on a global scale had ever happened in Europe from 70 thousand to 10 thousand years ago.

You dont need a global termination to keep numbers down.

Why do you think Lions have not overrun Africa by now ? They keep breeding right but their numbers stayed relatively the same untill man started to hunt them why is that maby because there is only so much food to go around.

Now how many desieses where incurable 70 000 years ago? How much food where our ancestors able to produce in that age hunting and gathering, could they store the food for the winter? What was the survival rate of births for both mother and child? in angola currently 180 children die at birth for every 1000 births how many die in their first year of life?? What was their average lifespan? 20 years maby 30?

The reason our population exploded in the last 100 Years is because our medicine advanced to the stage where 3 children die at birth per every 1000 births, and moste live trough their first year of life. We also can feed our population, lots of people live to be 100 years old or older our average lifespan has tippled. We have eradicated Smallpox, Rinderpest, we are on our way to eradicate Poliomyelitis (polio),Dracunculiasis, regional eradications of Malaria, Lymphatic filariasis, Measles, Rubella, Onchocerciasis, Yaws. And we can cure moste of the stuff that gets thrown our way. While 70 000 years ago if you caught it you would most likely die and so would your tribe.

And all of this than x to SCIENCE not your magic man up in the sky

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Message 159 of 194 (654895)
03-05-2012 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by goldenlightArchangel
03-05-2012 11:48 AM


Re: Beyond the thin red line – Population growth Model
Only the specificity of Math results can be called evidence to this matter.

They could if you had the exact birthrates and death rates for every year in the past 70 000 years if you dont then your math is useless.

As for my growth model relatively no big growth until technology allowed it. Technology that enabled farming as an example.

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Message 164 of 194 (654908)
03-05-2012 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by goldenlightArchangel
03-05-2012 12:22 PM


Re: Population growth Models – TWO DIFFERENT ONES

This graph any better for you to understand.

500 000 - 10 000 Growth limited do to lack of technology to build shelter (living in caves etc

10 000- 2000 years ago Growth increasing slightly do to farming, houses, eaven early forms of medicine,

500 years ago a technological revolution harnesing wind and water to do what labour had to do before,

100 years ago technological revolution x10 allowing for a baby boom on an unprecedented scale

Simply put there was not enough food to go arround before to sustain a higher population.

first we hunted and gathered
Then we farmed with stone tools
We made better tools farmed more food
We discovered that crop rotation increases yeald
We discovered that mixing the soil with shit increased crop yeald

then 100 years ago til now we discovered
Tractors that equalled the work of 100 men working a full day in a matter of hours
We discovered soil supplements that increased plant growth
easy irrigation
Geneticly altered plants
Numerus protective agents against insects, mold and other problems that would ruin our crops
Refrigiration
.....

It is our technology that allowed us to multiply so much and the lack of thecnology that prevented us from multiplying before.

Simply put we could not feed 7 billion people 70 000 years ago but we can feed them today

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Message 167 of 194 (654939)
03-05-2012 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 165 by goldenlightArchangel
03-05-2012 2:33 PM


Re: A question to all teachers on Human Origins
U CANT USE SIMPLE MATH TO COME TO REALISTIC NUMBERS OF THE POPULATION OF HUMANS ANYWHERE IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THE EXASCT BIRTH TO DEATH RATIOS PER YEAR OR PER DECADE

MATH CANT HELP YOU IF YOU DONT HAVE ENOUGH DATA AND SMALL ERRORS IN EXPONENTIAL FUNCTIONS CAUSE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN RESULTS.

YOU CAN HOWEVER GO AND LOOK FOR STUFF THE PEOPLE OF THAT TIME LEFT BEHIND AND EXTRAPELATE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THEIR TIME.


Cant find a graph only for Europe's population

As can be seen in Figure 1, the world's population grew very slowly until about 1750. There was a long period of stationary growth (no growth) until 1000 B.C.E. , when the world's population was approximately 300 million; this was followed by a period of slow growth from 1000 B.C.E. to approximately 1750, at which time global population was an estimated 800 million. Until this time, the world's population was kept in check by high death rates, which were due to the combined effects of plagues, famines, unsanitary living conditions, and general poverty. After 1750, the world's population grew substantially; by 1950 it had tripled to around 2.5 billion. In this 200-year period, the doubling time was 122 years. Growth from 1950 to 1985 was even more dramatic; by 1985, the human population was 5 billion. World population had doubled in thirty-five years. By 2000 global population was 6 billion and is projected to be 9 billion in 2050.

Read more: Population Growth - world, body, life, history, cause, rate, time, human, History of Global Population Growth, Population Growth 19502050, Theories of Population Growth http://www.deathreference.com/...n-Growth.html#ixzz1oHvQ0jcA

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Message 170 of 194 (655056)
03-06-2012 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by goldenlightArchangel
03-06-2012 3:59 PM


Re: Timeline and the population growth of England
So you know that the seeing of the evidences have been omitted: there's nothing beyond REALISTIC than a termination/annihilation of '- 80 %' per every thousand years.

how about something that killed off 80% of yearly growth of the population every year


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