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The Kalam cosmological argument

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Pressie
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03-12-2012 8:11 AM 		Reply to: Message 90 by Shimbabwe
03-11-2012 9:06 PM

Re: Reply to PAulK
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1. Every being which begins to exist has a cause for its existence
  —Shimbabwe1
Therefore, any god postulated must also have a cause for it's existence, another greater god, maybe? In the end its turtles, all the way down. Unless you want to employ special pleading.
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03-14-2012 12:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 95 by New Cat's Eye
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You could postulate a god that always existed and therefore did not begin to exist. Just sayin'.
Special pleading again. Everything, except a god....
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However, you could postulate that matter and energy always existed. We have evidence for the existence of matter and energy. Nothing for the existence of a god.
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