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Author Topic:   The Kalam cosmological argument
Modulous
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Message 107 of 177 (655892)
03-14-2012 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by kbertsche
03-14-2012 12:17 AM


a finite thing that always exist
Yes, people have done this for centuries. It became much more difficult after Penzias and Wilson found observational evidence that the universe had a beginning.
The visible universe, maybe. And probably a chunk of the non-visible universe. But there is suggstion that there is a natural world that exists 'prior' to the present spacetime zone we have traditionally called 'the universe'. This could have always existed.
Furthermore, even if we postulate a finite universe - it can still have always existed. It simply needs to have existed for all time. That is to say: 'whenever' there was time, there was universe.
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