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Author Topic:   Accretion Theory and an alternative
Jet Thomson
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Message 115 of 257 (656381)
03-18-2012 3:22 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by Percy
03-16-2012 7:03 PM


Re: Just what I needed
Got it. My apologies.

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Jet Thomson
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From: Tucson, Az USA
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Message 116 of 257 (656382)
03-18-2012 3:44 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Trixie
03-16-2012 7:29 PM


Re: No pictures
You wrote:
Have you looked at what conventional science says about sunspots and the evidence they have for what they say?
My response:
They are places where ejections happen. Taken from this link:
Sunspot - Wikipedia
'Most solar flares and coronal mass ejections originate in magnetically active regions around visible sunspot groupings.'

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Jet Thomson
Member (Idle past 4380 days)
Posts: 86
From: Tucson, Az USA
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Message 117 of 257 (656383)
03-18-2012 3:52 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by Trixie
03-16-2012 7:42 PM


Re: Science v Dogma
You wrote:
you've still stuck to your hypothesis and claimed that only a star being dagged into a black hole in the centre of our galaxy counts. I have to ask why
My response:
Because we are tracking the stars around our center so that the evidence will be without doubt. Obsevations of other galaxies are too far away to know for sure what is going on.
You wrote:
Could you please deal with these outstanding questions instead of just repeating unfounded assertions?
My response:
Yes, and thank you for your input.

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Jet Thomson
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From: Tucson, Az USA
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Message 120 of 257 (656386)
03-18-2012 4:28 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by Percy
03-16-2012 8:17 PM


Re: No pictures
You wrote:
planetesimals formed in the early solar system, not planets.
My response:
Thanks. I will be more accurate.
You wrote:
The material from Saturn's rings appears to come from its moons or from collisions of its moons with other space bodies such as asteroids.
My response: In looking for large planet like bodies that have since collided with other large bodies, it is suggested that a giant moon crashed into Saturn as evidenced by its rings. Taken from this link:
Rings of Saturn - Wikipedia
In December 2010, National Geographic suggested that the rings of Saturn could be the remains of a giant lost moon that was stripped of its icy shell before it crashed into the planet
You wrote:
Could you use some help with the quote codes?
Thanks, for now on I will use dBCodes.
Thank you.

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Jet Thomson
Member (Idle past 4380 days)
Posts: 86
From: Tucson, Az USA
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Message 121 of 257 (656387)
03-18-2012 4:51 AM
Reply to: Message 70 by Percy
03-16-2012 8:36 PM


Re: Hot Jupiters
and as we gather more evidence theories have to adjust to explain it.
What I like is 'as we gather more evidence theories have to explain it without adjusting its position.'
There seems to be a big and small to adjustments. There seem to be big adjustments often made to current theory that warrent question. It is not so much of an adjustment but so many times the requirment of an entirely new theory to keep old one alive. I seem to have a problem with that.
On persuasion, I am learning the technical ins and outs of it all.
It can be difficult to remain calm under such pressure.
Thank you!
Edited by Admin, : Fix quote.

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Jet Thomson
Member (Idle past 4380 days)
Posts: 86
From: Tucson, Az USA
Joined: 03-10-2012


Message 122 of 257 (656388)
03-18-2012 4:52 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by Jet Thomson
03-18-2012 4:51 AM


Re: Hot Jupiters
I guess I do. (quote codes)

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Jet Thomson
Member (Idle past 4380 days)
Posts: 86
From: Tucson, Az USA
Joined: 03-10-2012


Message 133 of 257 (656422)
03-18-2012 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by Dr Adequate
03-16-2012 8:39 PM


Re: Hot Jupiters
What is being said about new planetary dicsoveries.
'The new distant planet observations have forced astronomers to rebuild planetary theory.'
Taken from this link:
http://www.spacetoday.org/...ars/Planets/FarawayPlanets.html
Did I claim Hot Jupiters and sprial galaxies are anomolies? I think something got mixed up there. What I suggest is that planets that orbit reverse of the roatation of its host star are anomolies, but should not require new theories to be explained. If however, it is predicted that these planets cannot exist, or seems to be a shocking discovery, then rather than build new theories to add on top of the old ones to expalin them, the theories that predict such things should be questioned. That is just a hypothetical example.
Thank you for your input.

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Jet Thomson
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Message 134 of 257 (656423)
03-18-2012 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Dr Adequate
03-17-2012 2:23 AM


Re: Hot Jupiters
The probem I have with the idea that all the Hot Jupiters we are finding had to have migrated inward. We would have to look at these planets over time to see if this is the case.

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Jet Thomson
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Message 135 of 257 (656426)
03-18-2012 7:15 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Dr Adequate
03-17-2012 2:27 AM


Re: No pictures
I have a hypothosis that in the next few years, we will see or have evidence of a planet in the process of being ejected from its host star. Evidence of stars being ejected from our super massive black hole could be years, decades or even centuries off. However, evidence of erptions spilling our matter from our supermassive black hole may have been detected.
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Scientists have detected two gigantic bubbles of high-energy radiation spilling out from the Milky Way's center that may have erupted from a supermassive black hole.
Hypothesis, I got it.
Thanks.

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Jet Thomson
Member (Idle past 4380 days)
Posts: 86
From: Tucson, Az USA
Joined: 03-10-2012


Message 136 of 257 (656427)
03-18-2012 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Panda
03-17-2012 6:19 AM


Re: So what?
Thanks.

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Jet Thomson
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From: Tucson, Az USA
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Message 137 of 257 (656428)
03-18-2012 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by Trixie
03-17-2012 6:54 AM


Re: We must move forward
Your right. I had no business saying that. I am altering my approach.
Thanks for the suggestion.

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Jet Thomson
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Posts: 86
From: Tucson, Az USA
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Message 138 of 257 (656429)
03-18-2012 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Percy
03-17-2012 8:08 AM


Re: We must move forward
I understand. I am interested in why you are all here. Not that I do not appreciate the help. I sure would like to delete that last thing I wrote, but I can't.
Thanks.

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Jet Thomson
Member (Idle past 4380 days)
Posts: 86
From: Tucson, Az USA
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Message 139 of 257 (656430)
03-18-2012 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Drosophilla
03-17-2012 9:01 AM


Re: the devil is in the detail (what detail?)
Hmm, I did not expect this at all.
Thanks.

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Jet Thomson
Member (Idle past 4380 days)
Posts: 86
From: Tucson, Az USA
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Message 141 of 257 (656432)
03-18-2012 7:37 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by New Cat's Eye
03-17-2012 10:29 AM


Re: No pictures !!
At this point, I agree there has been nothing of value to my postings. I am working on it. I am swamped by your responses. It is making it difficult to get my sources located an posted.

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Jet Thomson
Member (Idle past 4380 days)
Posts: 86
From: Tucson, Az USA
Joined: 03-10-2012


Message 142 of 257 (656433)
03-18-2012 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by rueh
03-17-2012 11:19 AM


Re: No pictures
Sorry, I do not understand what you are talking about. but thanks anyway.

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