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Author Topic:   Why Would a Loving God Create Hell?
crashfrog
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Message 5 of 196 (65869)
11-11-2003 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by zipzip
11-11-2003 1:59 PM


This supposes a definition of good and just that supercedes God -- that is, some "higher law" that exists outside of all creation and above God.
Yes, that's implied by the idea of a moral God. You do believe god is moral, right? No moral entity puts themselves at the apex of their moral laws. Only an immoral entity is not subject to their own morality.
You can't define God as good and then define good as anything God does. That's circular. If god is good, it's precisely because he follows a moral code of goodness that's above himself.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1467 days)
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Message 44 of 196 (66497)
11-14-2003 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Rei
11-14-2003 1:59 PM


"Thanks for destroying our country," one man said to Larry Darby, president of the Atheist Law Center in Montgomery.
"Go to hell!" another man told Mr. Darby, bumping him.
Wow. Way to go, Christians. Very mature.

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