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Message 526 of 683 (658679)
04-08-2012 8:24 AM
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04-08-2012 2:15 AM


Re: Something weird
It looks normal to me. Maybe it depends on the browser. I am using firefox 11.0 on linux (opensuse 12.1).

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Message 527 of 683 (658729)
04-09-2012 8:05 AM


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Message 528 of 683 (658843)
04-10-2012 10:35 AM


Moderator editting?
Message 395
On this message I posted I see this edit memo
quote:
Edited by AdminPhat, 04-10-2012 7:56 AM: fixed spelling
No one has fixed spelling in the past. Also, I do not know what the correction is. If a mod is going to fix spelling the edit memo should say what the correction is. This is probably something that needed to be fixed, but maybe I want to use a particular spelling.
If editing like this is being done full disclosure needs to be made.
Edited by Theodoric, : punctuation

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Message 529 of 683 (658844)
04-10-2012 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 528 by Theodoric
04-10-2012 10:35 AM


Re: Moderator editting?
Moderators flat out shouldn't be correcting spelling. It's a completely unneeded intrusion into other's posts.

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Message 530 of 683 (658845)
04-10-2012 10:41 AM
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04-10-2012 10:37 AM


Re: Moderator editting?
I pretty much agree on the unwanted part, but a small typo fix I wouldn't mind so much, especially since I tend to be far to sloppy about those.

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Message 531 of 683 (658846)
04-10-2012 10:49 AM
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04-10-2012 10:41 AM


Re: Moderator editting?
Then it is up to the poster to fix they typos. Spelling changes could potentially change the whole meaning of a post. What is on persons typo could be anothers point in an argument. I do not thinmods should fix typos, but if they are going to there needs to be full disclosure.
In this case I am very curious as to what the correction was. I miss typos at times, but certain changes of what some might call a spelling error, may be changing the nature and flavour of my post
The word flavour may be considered a typo by many. My grandmother was one of the first people to teach me how to read and write. As she was Canadian she used some British English spellings. To this day I sometimes use -our or -re endings instead of the American versions. Drove my schoolteachers crazy.
especially since I tend to be far to sloppy about those.
Use spellcheck. Firefox has it built in.

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Message 532 of 683 (658847)
04-10-2012 10:58 AM


A moderator editing spelling or changing formatting on his or her own is inexcusable.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 533 of 683 (658848)
04-10-2012 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 528 by Theodoric
04-10-2012 10:35 AM


Re: Moderator editting?
This is what I fixed.
You said "Show ho his theories are valid how they do not defy scientific..." My edit?
Show how his theories are valid (and) how they do not defy scientific ...
I never change the meaning of anything. If you think that I had no business correcting your spelling, chime in. I was merely making your post understandable. people can misinterpret ho versus how....
Edited by Phat, : full disclosure

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Message 534 of 683 (658849)
04-10-2012 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 529 by Dr Jack
04-10-2012 10:37 AM


Re: Moderator editing?
Moderators flat out shouldn't be correcting spelling.
Except possibly in the case where the spelling error is in the topic title. I don't think the proles can edit topic titles.
I think the best course of action upon detecting a spelling error is to use the PM function or to just ignore it. Especially in the case of typos where the meaning of the sentence is quite clear.
Incidentally, the subtitle of this discussion is spelled wrong. It should read 'Moderator editing?' - there's only one 't' in 'editing'.

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Message 535 of 683 (658851)
04-10-2012 11:33 AM
Reply to: Message 534 by AdminModulous
04-10-2012 11:26 AM


Re: Moderator editing?
OK, I wont fix any more spelling errors.
Jar is wrong, though. Nothing in life is inexcusable.

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Message 536 of 683 (658852)
04-10-2012 11:37 AM
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04-10-2012 11:20 AM


Re: Moderator editting?
I think a message to the poster is appropriate explaining there is an issue. Editing the post is not the answer. Your change is not how I would have corrected it. I would never write anything as ridiculous as [and], this makes me look like I am incapable of writing an english sentence.
My correction would have been.
Show how his theories are valid, how they do not defy scientific...
This sentence has punch and leads to the next sentence. The tenor of the post was changed.
I was merely making your post understandable. people can misinterpret ho versus how....
That is a crock. Anyone with basic reasoning skills would have known the word intended was how.
DO NOT EDIT MY POSTS WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.
Are we clear?
If my posts demand editing than it would be for a suspendable offense.

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Message 537 of 683 (658853)
04-10-2012 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 536 by Theodoric
04-10-2012 11:37 AM


Re: Moderator editting?
DO NOT EDIT MY POSTS WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.
Point taken. My apologies.

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Message 538 of 683 (658872)
04-10-2012 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 531 by Theodoric
04-10-2012 10:49 AM


Re: Moderator editting?
I use chrome, which as the same function. But it's not that, but rather that I sometimes mess up English sentences when I am thinking. I need to get into the habit of proofreading..

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Message 539 of 683 (658922)
04-11-2012 1:54 AM
Reply to: Message 538 by Kairyu
04-10-2012 2:45 PM


Re: Moderator editting?
We all need to proofread ourselves more. But one of the problems is that we don't see what we wrote, but rather what we were thinking when we wrote it, so most of our typos are invisible to us. I'm also a programmer and we can have an error in our own program that we cannot see, but as soon as someone else looks at it the error jumps right out at them. It's the same with proofreading ourselves. The only technique I have found to be at all effective is to read what we wrote out loud, word for word, even if it's still only inside our head.
As for the question of moderator editing, I'm generally against it. However, if it does prove to be necessary, then I would insist that the original text remain intact and that the editing be presented as a note suggesting a correction. IOW, the "service" could still be rendered, while at the same time honoring the original.

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Message 540 of 683 (658923)
04-11-2012 2:12 AM


Report topic, not a discuss topic
Discussion belongs in the General Discussion Of Moderation Procedures (aka 'The Whine List') topic.
If you're not reporting, go to that topic (or else?).
Adminnemooseus

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