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foreveryoung
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Message 254 of 307 (659360)
04-15-2012 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 252 by jar
04-15-2012 3:05 PM


You know that the rant in question was NOT deleted, only hidden. If you like I will happily post it here for you.
Please do. That way dwise1 can read my response without me trying to remember all the salient points.
Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

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foreveryoung
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Message 262 of 307 (659376)
04-15-2012 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 260 by Dr Adequate
04-15-2012 4:20 PM


Well, it seems that dwise1 is not so bad at understanding you as you make out. By your own account, you are suffering from an "emotional affliction". I hope it gets better; in the meantime, if you find that participating on these forums aggravates your feelings of stress, and makes you more "upset and emotional" than you would otherwise be, then I think the most friendly advice I can think of is that you should take a break.
Well, it appears you understand me just as well as dwise does. I don't have an emotional affliction like in somethings that is clinically diagnosable. I have the same emotional traumas that every single person on this board does. Some are better at burying their feelings in their gut only to have them erupt in another form at some other time. I don't push anything down at all. It is much more healthier.

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foreveryoung
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Message 263 of 307 (659377)
04-15-2012 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 256 by dwise1
04-15-2012 3:33 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
I agree with you, Jar. And the sad fact is that all his recent conduct in the past days clearly demonstrate that his brain was not working. It really is tiring to try to deal with a raving lunatic (which is what he was presenting himself as being). I need to be off to salsa class right now. Hopefully he can try to actually address my post in the next few hours.
I am not going to address any post of yours after you call me a raving lunatic. Sorry. No dice.
I guess you have such self control that you have never gone into an all consuming rage? The rage consumes you to the point that all you want to do is express it so that the feeling can pass. If the feeling does not pass, it does not get dealt with and the mind turns it into other various forms that show up at other times in life, and you have no idea why you are acting or feeling the way you do. Dear sir, I am much more in touch with my feelings than you are. I would venture to say you are much more close to being a lunatic than I am.
Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

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foreveryoung
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Message 273 of 307 (659400)
04-15-2012 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 272 by marc9000
04-15-2012 7:40 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
Just from the title of those books, it sounds like they would go a long way toward making self control for me possible on this forum. People here seem to take great pleasure in driving one's self esteem into the toilet.

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foreveryoung
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Message 275 of 307 (659402)
04-15-2012 7:50 PM
Reply to: Message 268 by Dr Adequate
04-15-2012 6:50 PM


It is popularly believed that "venting" one's anger gets rid of it, as though it were a build-up of steam in an engine, but the evidence from psychological studies is the very opposite: expressing your anger leaves you feeling angrier than you would if you didn't. After all, anger is not really a substance subject to conservation laws, it's a state of mind. I can look up some of the studies for you if you like.
I can only speak from experience. When i don't get rid of my rage in some way or at least let people know how I feel and what is bothering me, it only means bigger problems down the road. I haven't been a part of the studies you mention so part their conclusions aren't so accurate?

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foreveryoung
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Message 277 of 307 (659404)
04-15-2012 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 269 by Trixie
04-15-2012 6:56 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
It was explained to you at the beginning of this thread that your perception of how everyone felt about you was wrong. You obviously don't believe this. No-one hates you, no-one despises you because of your point of view.
I'm sorry but my perception is not wrong at all. I see clear evidence to the contrary here all the time. Yes, all creationists are hated on this board. That is obviously clear. Perhaps you define hate differently than I do. I just know that if I spoke to someone like many of you do here, I know it would mean that I hated them, and it would be mainly for who they are.

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foreveryoung
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Message 278 of 307 (659406)
04-15-2012 7:58 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by Dr Adequate
04-15-2012 7:46 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
Well, either that or he could participate on forums such as these ... oh, wait, he has. So to cleanse his mind from his brief contact with reality he should read books by nutters. Henry Morris, seriously?
Trixie. This is what I mean by hatred for creationists. This may not be hatred to you, but if I disrespected someone to the respect that adequate has just done, I know it would be because of my hatred for who that person is. I know it when I hate someone, unlike some here who try to deny it in themselves.

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foreveryoung
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Message 281 of 307 (659411)
04-15-2012 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 266 by dwise1
04-15-2012 6:28 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
Even though how he is able to create paragraphs, his content is the same. He objects to what's been written. Objects to what exactly? He refuses to say and then rants in the same vein as quoted above. What is the reasoning behind his objections? He refuses to say and continues to rant in the same vein as quoted above.
It is impossible to reason with someone who refuses to think and it is impossible to have any kind of rational discourse with someone who is so strongly committed to being irrational. It's the same as trying to deal with a raving lunatic, even when the person is not actually one but rather insists on acting like one.
Your point is only valid for this past month perhaps. That was after I became full of rage. Your quotes are from one night when issues outside of this forum had me in a "state". I already had residual anger toward the people in this forum ,and what I started reading in "three kinds of creationists" set me off on an uncontrollable rage.
Other than that, I am usually quite rational. You may not like my point of view, but I am rational.

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foreveryoung
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Message 284 of 307 (659415)
04-15-2012 8:12 PM
Reply to: Message 280 by jar
04-15-2012 8:10 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
Creationists are simply not significant enough
That right there is a clear expression of hatred. You have accepted hateful thoughts about creationists for such a long time that you don't recognize your own hatred for them.
Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

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foreveryoung
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Message 285 of 307 (659416)
04-15-2012 8:14 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by nwr
04-15-2012 8:12 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
That would only be true if I forgot everything you said to me in this forum and their was good reason to behave in public. Otherwise, I would inwardly hate most peoples guts here in public even though I was talking pleasantly to them to their faces.

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foreveryoung
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Message 288 of 307 (659421)
04-15-2012 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 270 by dwise1
04-15-2012 7:05 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
Remember, all this row between us started when you attacked me first. So don't you dare break your promise to never reply to any of my posts again!
I never said such a thing. Why pretend to be concerned and then end the post with an insult like you did? You almost changed my opinion about you, but your last comment stopped that from happening.

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foreveryoung
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Message 291 of 307 (659424)
04-15-2012 8:23 PM
Reply to: Message 287 by jar
04-15-2012 8:20 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
You may think that is hateful, but if you do it is simply more evidence of you being wrong.
Hell, folk at this board have called be lots of really nasty names, even said that I should be taken out and shot. Do I hate them? No, of course not. At most they are worthy of a chuckle or three.
But I do hate the idea that there are still folk that teach utter nonsense to vulnerable young kids like Creationism or that the Biblical Flood happened.
I'm sorry but that is not convincing at all. You don't talk about anybody else with the rhetoric you reserve for creationists. That is really all anyone needs to know.

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foreveryoung
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Message 292 of 307 (659425)
04-15-2012 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by Dr Adequate
04-15-2012 8:22 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
Quite so. As they are designed to lead you to hate and fear people who disagree with you, they will naturally have the exact opposite effect ... oh, wait.
Why would you come to such a ridiculous conclusion?

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foreveryoung
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Message 299 of 307 (659437)
04-15-2012 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 298 by Dr Adequate
04-15-2012 10:25 PM


Re: Henry Morris
I don't even understand what he is saying. So, that means all his other books are the same? I have read some of his other stuff before. It isn't unintelligible as that.

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foreveryoung
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Message 300 of 307 (659438)
04-15-2012 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 297 by dwise1
04-15-2012 9:44 PM


Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
Re: posted at the request of foreveryoung.
You broke your promise.
What promise are you talking about. I said that I wasn't going to respond to any post if you are going to call me a lunatic. I was talking about the post you were trying to get me to respond to. I didn't mean I was never going to respond to. Sorry that you got that impression.
Edited by foreveryoung, : No reason given.

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