The problem is one of relativity.
Given this knowledge, there is only one relevant logical question to be asked; Which person's "good" is the real GOOD?. Is it Pete and his friends in group X? Or is it James and his friends in group Z? Or is it some other view?
If you are atheist and believe in relative morality, then you can't state that even though there is no ultimate morality, our God is ultimately morally bad.
Atheist Syllogism;
-There is no ULTIMATE right and wrong.
-Pete has morals X and judges God to be "wrong" or "bad" in his own book;
ERGO he concludes that God is ULTIMATELY bad and wrong.
The error is that of the law of none-contradiction. You are saying that God is ultimately bad and yet there is nothing ultimately bad.
It just doesn't work - it takes denial to pretend to yourselves that this works.
You see, only if you are ultimately morally perfect can you state that you have the say when it comes to ultimate reality. If you as Frako-none-believer have the keys to righteousness, then do share! do your morals stop you from sinning? Are you an example? Have you never lied or insulted, or even been angry and thought about angry things? Have you ever held a grudge or retaliated or spoken evil?
Our God lives in a holy place, we are told by scripture. We believe heaven, where He resides, is a place of holy perfection, a place where there is ultimately no lying or stealing or killing, therefore we have chosen in our lives to believe and trust the one who speaks from this position. It is these scriptures that describe God, which we hold as comments pertaining to God, such as, "God is light, and in Him there is no darkness at all". We TRUST and have FAITH that such scriptures are true, so we are not going to make foolish and self-righteous politically correct assertions about God, who we are told, is unfathomably great.
If you knew God this way, then you would have no reason to look into the scriptures in this narrow-minded way. It is because you do not know God, that you can't understand.
An unfathomably grate guy who kills kids, grate i dint know it was a good thing to kill kids il start killing some right away, so i might become
ight, and in Him there is no darkness at all
You see, that's an example of what you see from reading the text. You've chosen one strict way of interpreting scripture based on the position of mortality and individual rights, morals that are only fashionably new morals, modern morals that have arrived in the last few decades or so.
This is YOUR take on it, as a certain type of person, a certain group, whether your group is a minority or a majority, it is a subjective conclusion, even an ODD conclusion, trying to filter God through the human-rights system, Lol.
That's not how the bible describes God. God is gravity, that is how you should see Him.
Sure you can argue against gravity, you can say it is evil, you can even jump off a cliff in protest, but ultimately, gravity will have your ass splat.
It's the same with God - to judge God is only always error and misunderstanding. Why? Because we are told that God's understanding is unfathomable. Of course you do not understand His actions, because you do not have even 1% of His knowledge. Could you create a DNA? Could you come up with a contraflow lung?
"Trust in the Lord, and lean not on your own understanding".
Your moral conclusions about God are definitely important to you and those who share your modern morals. Soon those morals will change, maybe in a decade or so, you will not dare accuse God because in a decade it might be bible-phobic and immoral to say things bad about the bible. But those of us who trust the Lord and know Him, and how He truly is, we will still have a foundation that has not changed.
Well no i can build a plane and fly of from this gravity. But can you really say a truly grate and wonderful loving god kills people. or is there something wrong with that sentence.
If it is 100% accurate, even for the topic, then LOGICALLY, you have came to a non sequitur by saying God is no good, because christ said, "there is only one who is good, that being God".
So if the bible is 100% accurate, then it would mean that when you believe in 100% of the bible, you are obviously not going to come to the conclusion that God is not good, because many scriptures tell us that He is the source of all good.
If we as genuine believers in the 100% bible believe in all of the scriptures, then how can we come to a conclusion that God is bad, based on a biblical event that took place rather than a biblical teaching?
So it's how you think that is what counts isn't it? If we take the 100% bible, then "God is light and in Him is no darkness whatsoever" therefore if you find a troublesome text that puts God in a bad light, you have to then ask some questions such as, "then what does this text really mean, and if God is not bad, is there something I myself have not understood?"
I think it's usually an excellent question because nearly always is the bible seen as saying something bad against God when in fact He can have a greater purpose. Remember, He is acting in a system which is already a mess, therefore His intentions can't always be clear.
In an imperfect system, good actions can be seen as bad actions, for example, if a man steals food, but he is stealing it to feed his starving child, then he has a good motivation, but his actions don't seem good. It is wise to then ponder what God's motivations are, in an imperfect system. His actions can be misunderstood, even though He has a just motivation, or He has a secret knowledge, and He knows it will turn out for the good, overall.
I don't think people like you actually think about these things. Perhaps you don't realise that there are people who really do believe in what the bible says, so when it says that God is our only hope, we believe it, and we don't play little-god, by letting our opinions become god.
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Yea sure. I think the word good just got its meaning replaced with evil over the centuries the book would make much more sense if you swap the words.
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