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crashfrog
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Message 182 of 341 (649238)
01-21-2012 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 181 by Larni
01-21-2012 4:23 PM


Re: What to do?
Now my choice is even harder.
No, it's pretty simple: Skyrim. Seriously, it's the game of the year.

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crashfrog
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Message 189 of 341 (649569)
01-24-2012 12:13 PM


Calling Java gurus
Anybody do any Java development? When I learned Java as a CS major, they sort of skipped over the part where you actually produce something that can be deployed and installed on someone's computer, so while I flatter myself that I can program, I can't seem to actually work as a programmer even for free.
I've written a little bioinformatics application and the problem I have is that it only runs on my computer. I thought NetBeans would build an application which I could distribute, it certainly claims that it's doing that, but what it produces won't run on any other machine, it just crashes the VM with a NoClassDefinitionException.
Midway through the project I realized that I was producing code for Java 7, but that Java 6 had a broader install base, so I refactored for 6. At one point, I tracked a bug to the fact that there were a lot of classes that NetBeans never actually recompiled in Java 6.
I thought all I'd have to do was compile my classes and the NetBeans application toolkit into a distributable jar, and that jar does run on my computer just like it should, but it doesn't run anywhere else. NoClassDef exceptions usually have something to do with "classpath", but what would NetBeans be doing to my computer's classpath, and how do I get my eventual end-users to be able to run this code?

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crashfrog
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Message 191 of 341 (649580)
01-24-2012 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by PaulK
01-24-2012 1:04 PM


Re: Calling Java gurus
However, the description of the problem is unclear. How are you trying to run the program elsewhere, and which Class definition is missing ?
Maybe I'm myself unclear on what the problem is. In the broad strokes, the problem is that my jar runs fine on my computer, and on my wife's Mac once I found the hidden switch to turn Java 6 on, but what people (who don't really have the troubleshooting skills to tell me much about what's going on) tell me is that they download the zip archive, extract it, and then try to run the jar file but nothing happens. I'm fairly sure they have the right version of Java to run it.
Can I ask you to try running my program? It can be downloaded at
http://code.google.com/p/bootsie/downloads/list
"Bootsie.zip" is meant to be the distributable, and there's an additional archive of data files if you'd like to actually run it on something (it performs a statistical analysis of a certain kind of population genetics data that the entomologists I know need to do.)

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crashfrog
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Message 193 of 341 (649589)
01-24-2012 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 192 by PaulK
01-24-2012 1:47 PM


Re: Calling Java gurus
Thanks, PaulK! That's actually a bit of a relief. I'll try to get more information about what's going wrong with the end users (actually, at this point it's more like "end user".)
Thanks for your input. If you don't mind me asking, when/if you develop desktop Java applications, how do you usually distribute them?

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crashfrog
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Message 266 of 341 (656992)
03-24-2012 12:38 PM


Anybody else here at Reason Rally? Its pissing down!

crashfrog
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Message 271 of 341 (657047)
03-25-2012 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 270 by RAZD
03-24-2012 9:17 PM


Re: Ubuntu!!!!!
You could try Ubuntu 10 for free.
As long as he doesn't need to use WiFi, sure!
It's amazing to me that Linux hasn't solved their wireless internet problem in the 15-odd years I've been looking at Linux distros. Just the other day I grabbed an old PPC version of Ubuntu to pop on my old iBook G4, hoping to do something useful with it. Everything worked great except that there was zero support for the AirPort. Well, that was basically the one thing I needed to have working, so goodbye Ubuntu.
Linux: still not ready for prime time.

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crashfrog
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Message 275 of 341 (657056)
03-25-2012 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by NoNukes
03-25-2012 11:21 AM


Re: Ubuntu!!!!!
I'm not all that familiar with using linux on non-x86 hardware, but people using Ubuntu 11 seem able to get wifi to work on their intel-PCs.
Well, right. If you buy the right wireless card, they'll have made linux drivers for it. Or maybe you can use NDIS-Wrapper to wrap up the Windows binary you need and, if you're lucky, the card will work.
Neither of those things is true for my old Mac, unfortunately. But, I mean, I've built an off-the-shelf PC with an off-the-shelf wireless PCI card from Best Buy, and had every version of Linux refuse to see it. The sorry state of affairs in Linux wireless card support, to my understanding, stems from Linus' refusal to allow his kernel to be polluted by something as quotidian as a wireless driver.
As much as Linux claims to be about open-source, it's every bit as much about saying "no, sorry, you can't do that, because of our strong ideological commitment to a contradictory principle."

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crashfrog
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Message 283 of 341 (657569)
03-29-2012 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 282 by DBlevins
03-29-2012 11:39 AM


Re: Cheney's New Heart
Did they surgically implant it? I assumed Cheney just ate it.

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crashfrog
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Message 288 of 341 (660693)
04-28-2012 12:36 PM


Science and Engineering Festival
usasciencefestival.org
Anybody else down here for this?

crashfrog
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Message 333 of 341 (667907)
07-13-2012 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by Chuck77
07-12-2012 7:07 AM


Re: Creation Model
Before I propose a new topic I was wondering is there are any evolutionist' that would like to try to build a scientific Creation Model with me according to the Book Of Genesis?
I have to sort of echo everybody else and ask you why it has to be according to the Book of Genesis, and not just according to the physical and scientific evidence?
Basically i'm asking if some of the evolutionists here were to undertake a project of going about to try to build a Creation Model according to the book of Genesis how would you go about doing it?
Well, I guess I'd cheat - I'd make up the evidence that I needed, ignore the evidence that I couldn't explain, and accuse everybody who didn't believe me of being part of a huge conspiracy to conceal the truth. In other words I'd do exactly what creationists do.
It's worked on, like, more than 50% of Americans. Why not stick with the winning strategy?
I'm asking if you were to try to do it, how would you? Where would you start? What would you need? How would you go about doing it?
Ok, without being any more glib, I guess what you'd need - since you're talking about explaining the history and diversity of life on Earth - is a good, and broad, education in biology. There's no substitute for knowing what you're talking about, it's not "optional", you really can't contribute to science or even really use it until you actually know it. Math and science aren't just something you can say "well, we'll get a guy for that." If you're going to do this, you have to be the one who knows about living things.
So, you have to study biology. You have to know the organelles of the cell, you have to know how cells produce proteins from DNA, you have to know what proteins do, you have to know what kind of chemical reactions carbon is capable of, you have to know why, and how, we classify organisms into different groups and you have to know those groups. How are you going to explain the origin of species if you don't know what species there even are?
And if you're going to go through all of the time and expense to study all that, you might as well do it at a university and get a bachelor's degree out of it. There's no reason why the fact that you're not a biologist now should prevent you from doing the work to become one in the future.

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crashfrog
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Message 336 of 341 (667924)
07-13-2012 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 335 by Chuck77
07-13-2012 5:19 PM


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