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caffeine
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Message 289 of 341 (661103)
05-02-2012 7:27 AM


The Pound Sign
In two different threads recently I've seen English people talking about money and, instead of using the pound sign '£'; they use this funny Polish letter: ''. Does the board mess this up automatically, or is this some new symbol everyone's using these days for a hypothetical currency?
ABE: Well, that answers my question about the board's software. So what's with the s?
Edited by caffeine, : No reason given.
Edited by caffeine, : Edit2: accidental redundant word

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Message 291 of 341 (661115)
05-02-2012 10:04 AM
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05-02-2012 9:50 AM


Re: The Pound Sign
Many Americans will take "pound sign" to mean "#".
That would be a hash.
I've heard this called a pound sign plenty of times by Americans though, which raises another quick question! Where does that terminology come from?

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Message 301 of 341 (661187)
05-03-2012 3:26 AM
Reply to: Message 299 by New Cat's Eye
05-02-2012 2:31 PM


Re: The Pound Sign
Re: The Pound Sign
Ooohhh...
He was expecting the hash tag but saw the libra.
When he said he "the pound sign", I thought he was referring to the libra.
When I say 'the pound sign' I am referring to the libra. When I write it in my posts, that's what I see. When anyone else writes it, however, I see neither the hash symbol nor the libra, but rather the funny capital L with a line through it like in the Polish city 'd'.
Bizarre.

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Message 303 of 341 (661208)
05-03-2012 10:35 AM
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05-03-2012 10:12 AM


Re: The Pound Sign
I'd guess its a display or language setting in your browser.
And yours too, if you're also seeing the . What I don't understand, if this is just how my browser displays things, is why it doesn't happen to the libra in my own post. Do you see £ as the same as in my post?

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Message 319 of 341 (667771)
07-12-2012 6:06 AM
Reply to: Message 318 by Son Goku
07-12-2012 4:22 AM


Re: Thee
Do you happen to know how the accusative plural (you) became the nominative singular form?
It didn't everywhere. Some British regional dialects stuck with 'ye', but that's mostly dying out now.
The plural overtaking the singular dwise1 already explained - it was because the singular form began to be seen as rude since it was used for social inferiors. As for why 'you' became the dominant form (and this is purely my uniformed speculation), it might be because it was used more often in a sentence than 'ye'. When the distinction between cases lessened in English, this is the one that more people stuck with. Other accusative pronouns are often used as nominative in modern English now that case distinctions are almost gone.

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Message 323 of 341 (667779)
07-12-2012 7:16 AM
Reply to: Message 320 by Son Goku
07-12-2012 6:47 AM


Re: Thee
So the nominative plural (ye) was replaced by the accusative plural (you) first?
Only later did the new nominative plural overcome the singular.
I don't know. Both 'ye' and 'thou' survive in some dialects, so I've no idea which got pushed out first in standard English.
What were the separate dative forms before they merged with the accusative forms? Or would that take you too far back (like Old English)?
The dative and locative cases died out in the transition to Early Middle English. The Old English forms are all listed on Wikipedia, and the dative ones actually seem more similar to our modern accusative forms than the old English accusatives.

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