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Granny Magda
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Message 31 of 415 (661454)
05-05-2012 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by ringo
05-05-2012 12:56 PM


Re: CreationJon
How long have you been working on your thesis?

Mutate and Survive


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Artemis Entreri 
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Message 32 of 415 (661634)
05-08-2012 8:07 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Buzsaw
05-04-2012 9:16 PM


A++
the truest post of the month.

you should be quiet about the truth around here though, they love the masquerade that there is actual some "debate" here. and that it is "scientific" and "intellectually honest".

you hit the nail on the head Buzsaw, the Admin here, censors the opposition.

It makes this site completely lame except for entertainment purposes.

Edited by Artemis Entreri, : No reason given.


Admin writes:

I have removed the posting permissions of Artemis Entreri in this forum, Creation/Evolution In The News.
For everyone else, the topic is legislation in Tennessee. Please stay on topic.

"if you cant beat them censor them" --liberal mantra

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shadow71
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Message 33 of 415 (661638)
05-08-2012 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Dr Adequate
05-04-2012 3:13 PM


Dr Adequate writes:

Well, where are they? Even the creationists who we've got have most recently been wrong about economics. You have to go down eleven threads on "All Topics" to find anything about the EvC debate, in which, I note, creationists are not participating.

One of the reasons I very rarely post is that even when the "anti-creationists" must admit that one of their pillars of evolution are not sound they respond with silly childist barbs. An example, when discussing mutations that are not random with regards to fitness such as the CRISPRSs system the replys are you don't know what your talking about. Well my question is: is the CRISPRS system an example of a dedicated non random, beneficial change that evolutionary theorists have excluded to this day?

If so how can one have a debate when a valid point is ignored by the so called scientific experts, because it does not fit into their theory?


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Buzsaw
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Message 34 of 415 (661639)
05-08-2012 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Artemis Entreri
05-08-2012 8:07 PM


Re: A++
Arterius writes:

the truest post of the month.
you should be quiet about the truth around here though, they love the masquerade that there is actual some "debate" here. and that it is "scientific" and "intellectually honest".

you hit the nail on the head Buzsaw, the Admin here, censors the opposition.

It makes this site completely lame except for entertainment purposes.

the truest post of the month.
you should be quiet about the truth around here though, they love the masquerade that there is actual some "debate" here. and that it is "scientific" and "intellectually honest".

you hit the nail on the head Buzsaw, the Admin here, censors the opposition.

It makes this site completely lame except for entertainment purposes.

Thanks, Arterius. Yes, the answer to Dr Adequate's question is a no brainer, but they simply wave that reason off as it amounts to nothing. How can one participate if one is banned from doing so? Go figure, D.A. et al. Why would any newbies care to log in where they see how creationists are treated here.

I don''t know why I bother any more. For the most part, I don't. Of course that pleases Percy and some of his cumbodies who can't take the heat of debate which gores their ox.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." :)


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Bolder-dash
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Message 35 of 415 (661640)
05-08-2012 9:41 PM


Its a debate site??
Wait, wait, this is a debate site? Really? Are you sure? You guys are going to have to inform Percy of this then, because he clearly also has no idea that this site was intended for debate.

Perhaps you can put a big red message at the top of this site that says something like:

ALTHOUGH WE DO NOT ALLOW CREATIONISTS TO VOICE THEIR SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT ON EvC, AND ALTHOUGH VIRTUALLY ANYTHING THEY SAY WILL EITHER BE CENSORED, OR THEY WILL BE ACCUSED OF BEING "OFF TOPIC" EVERY TIME THEY MAKE A VALID POINT, AND EITHER BE SUSPENDED OR REFUSED POSTING PRIVILEGES, OR BE INUNDATED WITH A BARRAGE OF AD HOMINEN ATTACKS THAT THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO RESPOND TO OR AGAIN WILL BE SUSPENDED, THIS "IS" A DEBATE SITE, AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT AND ANY OTHER DEBATE FORUM IS THAT DEBATING IS NOT ALLOWED HERE BY, BY DICTATE OF THE ADMINISTRATOR.

I think that would help to clear things up greatly.

Oh and by the way, do you know that Eugenie Scott, Richard Dawkins, PZ Meyers, as well as the entire body of the National Academy of Science all believe as a policy that evolutionists never fair well debating creationists, so they should avoid it when possible?

Silly me, of course you must know that.


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Panda
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Message 36 of 415 (661644)
05-08-2012 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Bolder-dash
05-08-2012 9:41 PM


Re: Its a debate site??
Bolder-dash writes:

AND ALTHOUGH VIRTUALLY ANYTHING THEY SAY WILL EITHER BE CENSORED


A bare-faced lie.

Edited by Panda, : No reason given.


Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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Coyote
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Message 37 of 415 (661645)
05-08-2012 10:38 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Bolder-dash
05-08-2012 9:41 PM


Re: Its a debate site??
Oh and by the way, do you know that Eugenie Scott, Richard Dawkins, PZ Meyers, as well as the entire body of the National Academy of Science all believe as a policy that evolutionists never fair [sic] well debating creationists, so they should avoid it when possible?

What they avoid is public debates before stacked audiences and against creationists who practice the "Gish gallop." It is smart to avoid those venues.

What creationists avoid like the plague is written debates were evidence is necessary and there is time to research your replies. Scientific journals are a prime example.

Need evidence, eh? Guess that's why they do so poorly here also.


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Nuggin
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Message 38 of 415 (661656)
05-09-2012 2:15 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Bolder-dash
05-08-2012 9:41 PM


Re: Its a debate site??
OMG I CAN WRITE IN ALL CAPS IT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES ME COOL EVERYTHING I SAY IN ALL CAPS COUNTS AND NOTHING THAT IS IN LOWER CASE MEANS ANYTHING I'M VERY LOUD LOOK AT ME I'M A BIG BOY I WEAR BIG BOY PANTS CAPS CAPS CAPS CAPS CAPS

This is what you sound like when you type in caps.

Edited by Nuggin, : No reason given.


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Buzsaw
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Message 39 of 415 (661664)
05-09-2012 7:09 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Nuggin
05-09-2012 2:15 AM


Re: CAPS
Nuggin writes:

This is what you sound like when you type in caps.

Well, at least our good Chinaman got your attention.

IMO, it's the post of the month on behalf of EvC creationists.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." :)


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Dr Adequate
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Message 40 of 415 (661666)
05-09-2012 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by shadow71
05-08-2012 8:31 PM


One of the reasons I very rarely post is that even when the "anti-creationists" must admit that one of their pillars of evolution are not sound they respond with silly childist barbs. An example, when discussing mutations that are not random with regards to fitness such as the CRISPRSs system the replys are you don't know what your talking about. Well my question is: is the CRISPRS system an example of a dedicated non random, beneficial change that evolutionary theorists have excluded to this day?

If so how can one have a debate when a valid point is ignored by the so called scientific experts, because it does not fit into their theory?

And then you wonder why people don't take you seriously.

If you'll refer me to the relevant thread, I'll talk to you about this system. In the meantime, I will content myself with the following observation --- that the one and only, sole, singular reason that you know about this system is that "the so called scientific experts" discovered it. Was it discovered by creationists in their secret creationist laboratories? It was not. It was discovered by the very same "so called scientific experts" whom you now say have "ignored" their own discovery.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 41 of 415 (661668)
05-09-2012 7:32 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Bolder-dash
05-08-2012 9:41 PM


Re: Its a debate site??
Perhaps you can put a big red message at the top of this site that says something like:

ALTHOUGH WE DO NOT ALLOW CREATIONISTS TO VOICE THEIR SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT ON EvC, AND ALTHOUGH VIRTUALLY ANYTHING THEY SAY WILL EITHER BE CENSORED, OR THEY WILL BE ACCUSED OF BEING "OFF TOPIC" EVERY TIME THEY MAKE A VALID POINT, AND EITHER BE SUSPENDED OR REFUSED POSTING PRIVILEGES, OR BE INUNDATED WITH A BARRAGE OF AD HOMINEN ATTACKS THAT THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO RESPOND TO OR AGAIN WILL BE SUSPENDED, THIS "IS" A DEBATE SITE, AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IT AND ANY OTHER DEBATE FORUM IS THAT DEBATING IS NOT ALLOWED HERE BY, BY DICTATE OF THE ADMINISTRATOR.

But of course they even let you post stuff like that, attacking them personally. Because this is the real world and not the fantasy world in your head.

Oh and by the way, do you know that Eugenie Scott, Richard Dawkins, PZ Meyers, as well as the entire body of the National Academy of Science all believe as a policy that evolutionists never fair well debating creationists, so they should avoid it when possible?

I do not "know" the stuff that you have made up in your head, because it is not, of course, true.

---

Now, do you have any fact that you can put forward in favor of creationism on some appropriate thread.? Only you seem to have dedicated many of your most recent posts to badmouthing evolutionists instead of discussing the natural world and competing ideas about how to explain it.


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Buzsaw
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Message 42 of 415 (661675)
05-09-2012 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Dr Adequate
05-09-2012 7:28 AM


Re: Who Takes Who Seriously
DA writes:

And then you wonder why people don't take you seriously.

That is, who EvC evolutionist sheeples do not take seriously.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." :)


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Dr Adequate
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Message 43 of 415 (661677)
05-09-2012 8:01 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Buzsaw
05-09-2012 7:50 AM


Re: Who Takes Who Seriously
That is, who EvC evolutionist sheeples do not take seriously.

If you take him seriously, then please state in your own words what point he wishes to make about "the CRISPRSs system".

Otherwise you yourself don't take him seriously, you just like that he's on your side.

Tell me truthfully, before your God as witness, have you up until now ever spent five consecutive seconds thinking about the details of the CRISPRSs system? No? But you upvoted his post about it. And then you use the word "sheeples".


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Buzsaw
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Message 44 of 415 (661683)
05-09-2012 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Dr Adequate
05-09-2012 8:01 AM


Re: Who Takes Who Seriously
DA writes:


If you take him seriously, then please state in your own words what point he wishes to make about "the CRISPRSs system".

Not sure, but likely relating to how the Crysper System applies the DNA factor, relative to macro-evolution, more-so than for evolution of species.


BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.

Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." :)


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Panda
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Message 45 of 415 (661685)
05-09-2012 9:55 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Buzsaw
05-09-2012 9:34 AM


Re: Who Takes Who Seriously
Buzsaw writes:

Not sure, but likely relating to how the Crysper System applies the DNA factor, relative to macro-evolution, more-so than for evolution of species.


Nice try at pretending that you know what you are saying, but it is completely undermined by the fact you failed to produce a cogent sentence.
But it is interesting to see your dishonesty - "before your God as witness".

Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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