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Message 12 of 373 (662721)
05-18-2012 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by ScottyDouglas
05-18-2012 3:55 AM


Hi ScottyDouglas,
Just a quick note or two:
The legend of dragons is in almost every culture in human history. ...
And this should be your first "fire breathing" clue that these legends are not based on encounters with actual living dinosaurs.
The fact that fossils of dinosaurs exist today, and existed in the times when those legends were born should also be evidence that the dragon concepts were based on the fossils.
Again I suggest you read The First Fossil Hunters: Dinosaurs, Mammoths, and Myth in Greek and Roman Times by Adrienne Mayor.
Did dinosaurs live amoungst men?
If so then this would put a large hole in the evolutionary theory.
Curiously it would not dent the theory of evolution in the slightest. It would mean some updated knowledge about the natural world, but it would not change the evolution of any species.
Our interpretation of the past natural history of the life on earth is not the theory of evolution -- the theory of evolution explains the evidence, and when new evidence is found (such as a living dinosaur) then the theory is tested to see if it can explain the new evidence. Living dinosaurs would not be a significant test, it would be no different than the discovery of the Coelacanths in 1938.
I will post many evidences of dinosaurs with modern and acient man.
The numbers of orders of organisms living since the time of the dinosaurs include (but are not limited to) the mentioned Coelacants, Sharks, Crocodiles, and Birds ...
... and birds are properly classified as a sub-branch of dinosaurs. So technically we currently live with dinosaurs, and amazingly it doesn't affect the theory of evolution at all.
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RAZD
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Message 38 of 373 (662801)
05-18-2012 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by ScottyDouglas
05-18-2012 2:34 PM


Paluxy River and Carl Baugh = hoax
Hi ScottyDouglas
I''ve been to the Paluxy River, and I''ve put my foot inside a dinosaur footprint I found. I did not find any human footprints. Carl Baugh is no Dr - he is a fraud, and well documented as such. His purported human footprints are fakes.
Look it up.
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Message 46 of 373 (662814)
05-18-2012 10:30 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by ScottyDouglas
05-18-2012 1:50 PM


Hi ScottyDouglas,
Again appling that some how people like Christopher columbus and Marco Polo who wrote about such beats did not know what they were describing or talking about? ...
Curiously, such lack of knowledge and scientific accuracy in description was quite common at the time. One need only look at the fantasy sea monsters in books and on maps, ones that have no bearing on any know living or fossil animals.
... That seems like science today assumes that they are the only ones who knew and can properly describe a dinosaur. ...
Science can and does properly describe fossils, and any reconstruction of the organism from the fossils is hypothetical, a fact that is readily admitted by scientists.
These reconstructions are not evidence, even though they are done as meticulously as possible using known methods of reconstruction based on a knowledge of muscles, tissues, organs, etc.
... Stick to your gunns till the end because IF dinos walked with man darwins evolution theory is done. ...
And again this is falsified by the living organisms today that also existed at the time of the dinosaurs.
For it to change the theory of evolution it would need to challenge the nested hierarchy of descent from common ancestors, and this doesn't.
... That also means all your dating and knowledge you proclaim throughout the world is false. ...
Except, amusingly, that this does not even begin to follow by any stretch of logic.
But yes more evidence coming up!!
More items for the frauds and hoaxes thread? (hopefully you have checked to make sure they are not already listed ... ).
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Message 93 of 373 (664739)
06-04-2012 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Dr Adequate
06-04-2012 1:27 PM


Re: The Song Of The Dinosaurs
Hi Dr Adequate
Aren't there some dinosaurs with trumpet-like chambers that have been hypothesized as noise-makers?
Page not found - The Dinosaurs
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