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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7910 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
quote: lets discuss the beginning then. ------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7910 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
quote: lets learn about the beginning so we can argue some more, lol. ------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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KingPenguin Member (Idle past 7910 days) Posts: 286 From: Freeland, Mi USA Joined: |
quote: lets learn about the beginning so we can argue some more, lol. ------------------"Overspecialize and you breed in weakness" -"Major" Motoko Kusanagi
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Go to the abiogenesis thread and I`ll be happy to....
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Go to the abiogenesis thread and I`ll be happy to....
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Take it to Genes abiogenesis thread and I`ll be happy to....
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Abiogenesis started life, evolution had to wait one entire generation before it got cracking. Therefore life existed before evolution began, & is separate from it. When I said evolution didn't need a beginning I was speaking hypothetically (I admit I wasn't clear on this). If life existed forever (like God) then evolution didn't need a beginning, it always happened, & it is entirely separated from abiogenesis, which in this hypothetical never happened. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Abiogenesis started life, evolution had to wait one entire generation before it got cracking. Therefore life existed before evolution began, & is separate from it. When I said evolution didn't need a beginning I was speaking hypothetically (I admit I wasn't clear on this). If life existed forever (like God) then evolution didn't need a beginning, it always happened, & it is entirely separated from abiogenesis, which in this hypothetical never happened. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Abiogenesis started life, evolution had to wait one entire generation before it got cracking. Therefore life existed before evolution began, & abiogenesis is separate from it. When I said evolution didn't need a beginning I was speaking hypothetically (I admit I wasn't clear on this). If life existed forever (like God) then evolution didn't need a beginning, it always happened, & it is entirely separated from abiogenesis, which in this hypothetical never happened. Nor do I hold evolution as proof against God, just evidence against recent special creation. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5222 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
Sorry if this appears more than once, doesn't seem to be updating messages........
quote: Abiogenesis started life, evolution had to wait one entire generation before it got cracking. Therefore life existed before evolution began, & abiogenesis is separate from it. When I said evolution didn't need a beginning I was speaking hypothetically (I admit I wasn't clear on this). If life existed forever (like God) then evolution didn't need a beginning, it always happened, & it is entirely separated from abiogenesis, which in this hypothetical never happened. Nor do I hold evolution as proof against God, just evidence against recent special creation. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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Percy Member Posts: 22499 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
testing...
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
quote: How could anyone discuss "the begining" as anything other than vague theories...we dont possess any evidence to illustrate what "the begining" was actually like (and no,scriptural quotation from your chosen book of myths is not evidence)
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
quote: How could anyone discuss "the begining" as anything other than vague theories...we dont possess any evidence to illustrate what "the begining" was actually like (and no,scriptural quotation from your chosen book of myths is not evidence)
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Cobra_snake Inactive Member |
I can't get the next pages of this topic to appear
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Percy Member Posts: 22499 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
This thread had been closed due to technical problems, but it has now been reopened. Enjoy! Please report any problems to admin@.
--Percy PS - For those with a technical bent and an interest, here's what happened: A few weeks ago this thread began experiencing technical difficulties when new posts stopped appearing. The problem was traced to this site's webhosting company, God Bless Them, who without notifying their customers placed limits on the size and time that programs can run. As soon as a thread reaches around 24 pages it becomes too long for the HTML pages to be generated without exceeding these limits. I didn't hold out much hope of fixing this until I looked at the code, which was written by, God Bless Them, InfoPop. I've made so many modifications to their code that I'm very familiar with it (the message numbers are one modification), and I noticed that the HTML generation routine is recursive instead of iterative. By itself this isn't too serious, unless some of the variables contain large amounts of data. But every 15 messages (15 messages/page) the routine calls itself and READS THE ENTIRE THREAD, ALL 750,000 BYTES OF IT, INTO A VARIABLE! With around 360 messages in the thread that translates into the routine calling itself 24 times and taking 18 MegaBytes total just for the 24 copies of that one variable. The webhost places a limit of 32 MegaBytes on a process, and that's the limit I believe was being violated. I rewrote the routine to be iterative, and so all should be well for the time being. Hopefully I've pushed the limit above what any thread could reasonably reach. [This message has been edited by Percipient, 03-24-2002]
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